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Ep. 356
Did you know Lovable is the fastest-growing AI app on the planet—scaling faster than ChatGPT?
Kieran dives into what it takes to succeed in today’s AI-native startup world, with growth leader Elena Verna revealing how Lovable is changing the game for building and scaling tech companies. Learn more on why traditional management roles are disappearing, how end-to-end ownership and autonomy are driving insane speed at Lovable, and how the growth playbook is transforming for a generation of AI-powered products.
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Elena Verna https://www.linkedin.com/in/elenaverna/
Lovable https://lovable.dev/
Cursor https://cursor.com/
Miro https://miro.com/
SurveyMonkey https://www.surveymonkey.com/
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Aug 26
45 min

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Ep. 355
Is the era of "who publishes the most content wins" over?
Kipp, Kieran, and Alex Lieberman, co-founder of Morning Brew, dive into why marketers need to shift from churning out content to building a resonant brand identity that stands out in a crowded landscape. Learn more on why taste and speed—not just algorithms—will define marketing winners, the four moats shaping both software and content businesses, and how network effects and data are giving companies an unbeatable edge.
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Alex Lieberman https://www.linkedin.com/in/alex-lieberman
Morning Brew https://www.morningbrew.com/
Zapier https://zapier.com/
OpenAI https://openai.com/
Claude https://claude.ai/
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Aug 21
12 min

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Ep. 354
Are marketing teams about to shrink because of AI?
Kieran dives into how AI is transforming marketing teams, the skills that will set you apart, and what the future of marketing roles looks like. Learn more about the shift from specialists to generalists powered by AI, the two types of marketers who will thrive in the AI era (creative storytellers and engineer-led problem solvers), and why—even as teams get smaller—marketing is about to become more important, more valuable, and more fun than ever.
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Reddit Marketing https://www.reddit.com/r/marketing/
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Aug 19
15 min

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Ep. 353
Is GPT-5 any good for creative writing, or is it just another overhyped AI release?
Kipp dives into the one trick most marketers miss that instantly turns any AI into a better writing assistant. Learn how to craft a content ICP that actually works, why copy-paste marketers are doomed to mediocrity, and how tailoring your AI prompts with deep audience insights unlocks far more creative, original content.
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GPT-5 https://chatgpt.com/
Perplexity https://www.perplexity.ai/
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Aug 14
21 min

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Ep. 352
Is AI actually making our content worse—and could human imperfections be the key to better marketing?
Kipp and Kieran dive into the real impact of AI on creative originality with Darius Lam, CEO and founder of NEX, an AI content platform built for CPG brands. Learn more on why AI-generated content is forcing marketers to embrace imperfection, how brands can stand out in a world where AI makes everything look the same, and why the future belongs to those who balance creativity, authenticity, and scale.
Mentions
Darius Lam https://www.linkedin.com/in/dariuslam/
NEX https://nexcpg.com/
ChatGPT https://chatgpt.com/
Duolingo https://www.duolingo.com/
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Aug 12
35 min

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Ep. 351
GPT-5 is here for everyone (including free users) and it's a meaningful step forward for AI. Kipp breaks down OpenAI's hour-long livestream so you don't have to, covering what GPT-5 means for marketers, the biggest improvements in coding and writing, and why more people will use ChatGPT instead of Google for search. Learn about the key features that matter for business, from improved voice capabilities to better front-end design, plus why this democratization of advanced AI could transform how you build websites, create content, and reach customers.
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Aja Frost Episode https://youtu.be/gPKqvn-QS50?si=QaOol1Brf1tPCoHD
OpenAI https://openai.com
ChatGPT https://chat.openai.com
Canvas https://openai.com/index/introducing-canvas
Lovable https://lovable.dev
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Aug 7
15 min

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Ep. 350
Can you communicate four to five times faster with voice AI than typing?
Kipp and Allan Guo, Cofounder & CEO at Willow, dive into the untapped power of voice AI for marketers, founders, and busy professionals, exploring how it can transform your workflow and help you get more done. Learn more on the game-changing uses of voice AI—from supercharging your email and Slack messaging, to brainstorming and iterating ideas with large language models, to radically improving your daily productivity and communication.
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Allan Guo https://www.linkedin.com/in/allan-guo/
Willow https://willowvoice.com/
Claude https://claude.ai/
WeChat https://www.wechat.com/
Gamma https://gamma.app/
Granola https://www.granola.ai/
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Aug 7
35 min

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Ep. 349
By 2027, will 95% of all B2B buyer journeys start on an LLM?
Kipp and Kieran dive into the essential AI-powered marketing playbook for building a modern marketing plan from scratch in today’s rapidly changing landscape. Learn more on how to win in AI search and boost your share of voice, why mastering short-form content is the new superpower for marketers, and how intent data and micro-audience campaigns can drive greater results than ever before.
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ChatGPT https://chatgpt.com/
Claude https://claude.ai/
Canva https://www.canva.com/
XFunnel https://www.xfunnel.ai/
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Aug 5
35 min

Want our 6 AI-engineered prompts to turn Claude into your own data analyst? Get it here: https://clickhubspot.com/vwr
Ep. 348
What if you could build an entire year-long content strategy in just one AI prompt?
Kipp dives into the brand new HubSpot and Claude AI integration that's set to revolutionize how marketers work. Learn more on building your ideal customer profiles and personalized content calendars, running instant marketing attribution and ROI analysis, and developing lead nurturing and account-based marketing campaigns—all directly inside Claude and HubSpot.
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Claude https://claude.ai/
HubSpot https://www.hubspot.com/company-news/hubspot-connector-claude
Anthropic https://www.anthropic.com/
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Jul 31
24 min

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Ep. 347
Is this AI browser really good enough to be your default?
Kipp dives into a hands-on unboxing of Perplexity’s new Comet browser to find out if the hype lives up to the reality, and whether AI-native browsing can truly supercharge your marketing and business workflow. Learn more about unlocking the potential of AI-powered web browsing, top marketing use cases, and productivity hacks you can implement right now.
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Perplexity Comet https://comet.perplexity.ai/
Ramp https://ramp.com/intelligence
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Jul 29
20 min
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