Marketing Against The Grain
Marketing Against The Grain
Hubspot Media
Kipp Bodnar (HubSpot’s CMO) and Kieran Flanagan (Hubspot's SVP of Marketing), lead you down the rabbit hole of marketing trends, growth tactics and innovation. On the way you’ll pick up undiscovered strategies to give you that slight edge for success. These are not your typical twitter thread regurgitated marketing tactics that everyone is doing. These are new methods, with unfiltered examination of successful fresh ideas.
GPT-5 Just Dropped: What Marketers Need to Know
Want our 10 Advanced Marketing Prompts to use with GPT-5? Get the list here: https://clickhubspot.com/jgp Ep. 351  GPT-5 is here for everyone (including free users) and it's a meaningful step forward for AI. Kipp breaks down OpenAI's hour-long livestream so you don't have to, covering what GPT-5 means for marketers, the biggest improvements in coding and writing, and why more people will use ChatGPT instead of Google for search. Learn about the key features that matter for business, from improved voice capabilities to better front-end design, plus why this democratization of advanced AI could transform how you build websites, create content, and reach customers. Mentions Aja Frost Episode https://youtu.be/gPKqvn-QS50?si=QaOol1Brf1tPCoHD OpenAI https://openai.com ChatGPT https://chat.openai.com Canvas https://openai.com/index/introducing-canvas Lovable https://lovable.dev Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We’re creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you’re facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we’ve put together a survey and we’d love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg  Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod  Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934   If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar   Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat  ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.
Aug 7
15 min
Everyone’s Using AI Wrong – This Is the Real Unlock
Want AI that works while you sleep? Get our blueprint for AI Agents in 2025: https://clickhubspot.com/wgv Ep. 350 Can you communicate four to five times faster with voice AI than typing? Kipp and Allan Guo, Cofounder & CEO at Willow, dive into the untapped power of voice AI for marketers, founders, and busy professionals, exploring how it can transform your workflow and help you get more done. Learn more on the game-changing uses of voice AI—from supercharging your email and Slack messaging, to brainstorming and iterating ideas with large language models, to radically improving your daily productivity and communication. Mentions Allan Guo https://www.linkedin.com/in/allan-guo/ Willow https://willowvoice.com/ Claude https://claude.ai/ WeChat https://www.wechat.com/ Gamma https://gamma.app/ Granola https://www.granola.ai/ Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We’re creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you’re facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we’ve put together a survey and we’d love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg  Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod  Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934   If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar   Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat  ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.
Aug 7
35 min
6 AI Marketing Strategies To 3x Conversion in 2025
Want Kieran's AI Marketing Playbook for 2025? Get it here: https://clickhubspot.com/wcf Ep. 349 By 2027, will 95% of all B2B buyer journeys start on an LLM? Kipp and Kieran dive into the essential AI-powered marketing playbook for building a modern marketing plan from scratch in today’s rapidly changing landscape. Learn more on how to win in AI search and boost your share of voice, why mastering short-form content is the new superpower for marketers, and how intent data and micro-audience campaigns can drive greater results than ever before. Mentions ChatGPT https://chatgpt.com/ Claude https://claude.ai/ Canva https://www.canva.com/ XFunnel https://www.xfunnel.ai/ Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We’re creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you’re facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we’ve put together a survey and we’d love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg  Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod  Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934   If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar   Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat  ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.
Aug 5
35 min
How to Turn Claude Into a 6 Person Marketing Team (AI Demo)
Want our 6 AI-engineered prompts to turn Claude into your own data analyst? Get it here: https://clickhubspot.com/vwr Ep. 348 What if you could build an entire year-long content strategy in just one AI prompt? Kipp dives into the brand new HubSpot and Claude AI integration that's set to revolutionize how marketers work. Learn more on building your ideal customer profiles and personalized content calendars, running instant marketing attribution and ROI analysis, and developing lead nurturing and account-based marketing campaigns—all directly inside Claude and HubSpot. Mentions Claude https://claude.ai/ HubSpot https://www.hubspot.com/company-news/hubspot-connector-claude Anthropic https://www.anthropic.com/ Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We’re creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you’re facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we’ve put together a survey and we’d love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg  Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod
Jul 31
24 min
Perplexity Comet: Testing the NEW AI Web Browser
Want more AI tools that will automate your work like this? Get a list of 40+ tools here: https://clickhubspot.com/mcb Ep. 347 Is this AI browser really good enough to be your default? Kipp dives into a hands-on unboxing of Perplexity’s new Comet browser to find out if the hype lives up to the reality, and whether AI-native browsing can truly supercharge your marketing and business workflow. Learn more about unlocking the potential of AI-powered web browsing, top marketing use cases, and productivity hacks you can implement right now. Mentions Perplexity Comet https://comet.perplexity.ai/ Ramp https://ramp.com/intelligence Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We’re creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you’re facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we’ve put together a survey and we’d love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg  Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod  Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934   If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar   Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat  ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.
Jul 29
20 min
The New ChatGPT Agent Promised to Save Me Hours - Did It?
Want 22 ChatGPT Agents you can launch in 5 minutes? Get the prompts here: https://clickhubspot.com/akv Ep. 346 Is ChatGPT agent actually a game changer for marketers, or just more overhyped AI?  Kieran dives into whether ChatGPT agent can truly automate complex marketing and growth tasks, or if specialized AI tools still reign supreme. Learn more on how the new agent stacks up against human marketers, where it shines and struggles in competitive research and crafting presentations, and what the future of managing fleets of AI agents means for your productivity. Mentions ChatGPT agent https://openai.com/index/introducing-chatgpt-agent/ Perplexity https://www.perplexity.ai/ Genspark https://www.genspark.ai/ Replit https://replit.com/ Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We’re creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you’re facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we’ve put together a survey and we’d love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg  Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod  Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934   If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar   Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat  ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.
Jul 24
23 min
How to Vibe Code Tools That Actually Grow Your Business
Want our 10 Vibe Code Prompts? Get it here: https://clickhubspot.com/aeh Ep. 345 Is “vibe coding” the most addictive and important new skill for marketers in 2025? Kieran dives into how any marketer can quickly build lightweight tools and apps using AI and no-code platforms like ChatGPT, Perplexity Labs, and Replit. Learn more on defining your ICP (ideal customer profile) in record time, generating powerful code-powered lead magnets, and why building product demos and interactive experiences is now the ultimate way to attract and convert your audience. Mentions ChatGPT https://chatgpt.com/ Perplexity https://www.perplexity.ai/ Replit https://replit.com/ Lovable https://lovable.dev/ Jason Lemkin https://x.com/jasonlk Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We’re creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you’re facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we’ve put together a survey and we’d love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg  Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod  Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934   If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar   Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat  ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.
Jul 22
25 min
How To Create A Lead Magnet With AI (Full Tutorial)
Want our 10 Prompts + Web App to Create a Lead Magnet? Get it here: https://clickhubspot.com/vwd Ep. 344 Did you know you can go from idea to publishing a working lead magnet app in under an hour with AI? Kipp dives into how AI code generation tools are changing the game for small businesses and marketers by making it easier than ever to build free web applications that attract and convert customers. Learn more about leveraging ChatGPT and Claude to turn ideas into real web apps in minutes, the power of cloud-hosted artifacts for rapid prototyping, and actionable steps to test and validate your next lead magnet with almost zero coding experience. Mentions ChatGPT https://openai.com/index/chatgpt/ Claude https://claude.ai/ Claude Artifacts https://www.anthropic.com/news/build-artifacts Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We’re creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you’re facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we’ve put together a survey and we’d love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg  Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod  Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934   If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar   Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat  ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.
Jul 17
20 min
Is Grok 4 Worth $30/mo? (Full Test)
Ep. 343 Is Grok 4 really the smartest AI model? Kipp and Kieran dive into the hype, hands-on tests, and real-world marketing applications of Elon Musk’s latest AI release. Learn more on what makes Grok 4 different from other models, explore creative ways marketers and founders can use Grok’s X data access, and put Grok 4 up against OpenAI’s O3 in live marketing challenges to see which delivers the best results for content creation and campaign planning. Mentions Grok 4 https://x.ai/news/grok-4 Chat GPT Pro https://openai.com/index/introducing-chatgpt-pro/ Gemini https://gemini.google.com/ Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We’re creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you’re facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we’ve put together a survey and we’d love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg  Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod  Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934   If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar   Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat  ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.
Jul 15
28 min
The AI Stack That Makes Our Product Marketing 10x Faster
Want our Product Marketing team's AI stack (live interview + prompts)? Get it here: https://clickhubspot.com/ekg Ep. 342 How can you build a robust ideal customer profile with A ?   Kipp, Kieran, and Rachel Leist (VP of Marketing for HubSpot) dive into how AI is making product marketing 10x faster—and dramatically more personalized—by automating everything from positioning docs to competitor intelligence. Learn more on how to use AI tools to instantly create customer personas, power up your sales and competitive battlecards, and scale customer interviews so you’re always on the pulse of what your market needs most.  Mentions Rachel Leist https://www.linkedin.com/in/rleist/ Claude https://claude.ai/ Genspark https://www.genspark.ai/ Outset https://landing.outset.ai/ Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt We’re creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you’re facing at work or in your business. To understand your biggest challenges we’ve put together a survey and we’d love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research Resource [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg  Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod  Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain! Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934   If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends. We really appreciate your support. Host Links: Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar   Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat  ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.
Jul 10
40 min
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