Zero-click searches now dominate 65% of Google queries globally. Aimee Jurenka, SEO strategist at SEO Sustainable, has developed specialized tracking systems across multiple LLMs that help enterprise clients allocate budgets based on conversion data from ChatGPT, Gemini, and traditional search channels. The discussion covers chunkability optimization frameworks for AI-readable content, semantic triplet implementation strategies for brand visibility in generative outputs, and data-driven resource allocation models that balance traditional SEO with answer engine optimization investments. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In a world of AI search experiences, will impressions rise while clicks remain flat? Shaun Hinklein from Apollo.io challenges this assumption, arguing that Google's constant SERP experimentation suggests we'll see significant changes ahead. He predicts publishers will remain essential to search ecosystems, with Google likely developing new features that better integrate site content into AI overviews and potentially creating more click opportunities through innovative SERP elements. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Balancing AI content with E-E-A-T signals requires strategic planning. Shaun Hinklein from Apollo.io shares his hybrid approach that prioritizes expertise and trustworthiness above automation efficiency. His methodology includes mandatory subject matter expert reviews before publication, transparent author attribution to maintain accountability, and a focus on content quality that professionals would proudly attach their names to. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In the AI era, SEOs face a critical resource allocation question. Shaun Hinklein of Apollo.io makes a compelling case for prioritizing traditional search optimization over non-search channels. He explains how LLMs fundamentally rely on high-quality search results as their "ingredients," emphasizing that visibility without substance creates poor AI-generated content. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In this episode, Shaun Hinklein of Apollo.io examines the evolving relationship between SEO and B2B marketing. He predicts that as AI adoption reaches near-universal levels in the B2B space, the focus will shift from whether content is AI-generated to how effectively AI is being leveraged to deliver value. Shaun emphasizes that successful B2B companies will differentiate themselves through innovative AI applications rather than simply using the technology, with value delivery becoming the primary metric for content effectiveness. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Will AI content become indistinguishable from human content in search results? Shaun Hinklein from Apollo.io delivers a definitive "sell" on this controversial prediction. He argues that such indistinguishability would mean the death of journalism, highlighting the irreplaceable value of human creativity and authentic reporting in content creation. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

SEO and CRO strategies require AI integration for maximum impact. Shaun Hinklein, Head of SEO at Apollo.io, shares how data-driven content can create superior user experiences while balancing automation with human authenticity. He demonstrates practical methods for analyzing competitive SERPs with AI tools, explains how impression metrics now outweigh traffic volume, and reveals techniques for leveraging proprietary data to deliver unique value that generic AI content cannot match. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Kevin Indig is an independent advisor to some of the fastest-growing companies in the world, helping them accelerate growth through SEO and product strategy. His client portfolio spans top marketplaces like Reddit, Snap, and Upwork; leading SaaS platforms such as Ramp and Dropbox; and e-commerce brands including Hims and Fast Growing Trees. He also advises innovative companies on product strategy, including AirOps and Newfold. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

SEO professionals are feeling stuck in the age of LLMs. Kevin Indig, growth advisor and author of the Growth Memo newsletter, examines the industry's paralysis between treating AI search as repackaged SEO tactics or something entirely new. He challenges practitioners to move beyond terminology debates and adapt to evolving search landscapes, arguing that experience in traditional SEO can actually make adaptation more difficult. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

SEO metrics face a critical shift with AI search features. Kevin Indig, growth advisor and former Shopify SEO Director, explains why measuring AI overviews and AI mode performance now outweighs traditional rankings. He recommends tracking position one visibility as a key signal for AI overview inclusion, while using keyword rankings as directional indicators rather than primary KPIs. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.