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Bits + Bips: Hyperliquid’s USDH Bidding War & Why the DAT Model Is Broken - Ep. 900
1 hour 6 minutes Posted Sep 10, 2025 at 11:00 am.
Intro
The bidding war for Hyperliquid’s USDH
Whether the Hyperliquid DAO is truly decentralized
Are DATs already broken as a product?
How some DATs avoid fulfilling their promises after raising money
Why yield-maximization is critical for DATs—and what risks it creates
Where the trillion-dollar opportunity in stablecoins might actually be
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The fight for Hyperliquid’s USDH stablecoin is more than a ticker battle—it’s a referendum on how crypto distribution, governance, and incentives will shape the next trillion-dollar market. 
In this episode of Bits + Bips, Steve Ehrlich sits down with Delta Blockchain Fund’s Kavita Gupta, Galaxy Digital’s Alex Thorn, and Frax founder Sam Kazemian to dig into the big questions: Who will win the USDH war, and why does distribution matter more than design? Are DATs fulfilling their promises—or raising money without accountability? Why are L2s the wrong place for tokenized stocks? And where exactly is the trillion-dollar opportunity in stablecoins?
Sponsors:
Xapo
Walrus
Host:
Steve Ehrlich, Executive Editor at Unchained
Guests:
Kavita Gupta, Founder & Managing Partner of Delta Blockchain Fund
Alex Thorn, Head of Firmwide Research at Galaxy Digital
Sam Kazemian, Founder of Frax Finance
Links:
Unchained: 
The Competition Is On. Who’ll Win the USDH Ticker on Hyperliquid?
Stablecoin Issuers Enter Bidding War to Launch Hyperliquid’s USDH
Sky Joins Bidding War to Launch Hyperliquid’s USDH 
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