Andy is joined by Joanna Robinson to discuss a New York Times article published last week declaring that we’re in the midst of an era of “mid TV” with shows like ‘Mr. and Mrs. Smith’ and ‘Hijack’

Then, they talk about the new Netflix hit ‘Baby Reindeer’ in relation to that article

before discussing episodes 2-5 of ‘Sugar’ and why it should have worked when unfortunately it doesn't