Chris and Andy talk about the finale of 'Slow Horses' Season 3, and how the show is set up to be able to try different types of storytelling with each season (1:00). Then, they are joined by show creator Will Smith to talk about how they have been able to put out a new season every six months (17:28), and working with Gary Oldman to bring the character of Jackson Lamb to life (35:30).Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy GreenwaldGuest: Will SmithProducer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy talk about the finale of 'Slow Horses' Season 3, and how the show is set up to be able to try different types of storytelling with each season (1:00). Then, they are joined by show creator Will Smith to talk about how they have been able to put out a new season every six months (17:28), and working with Gary Oldman to bring the character of Jackson Lamb to life (35:30). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy GreenwaldGuest: Will SmithProducer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Chris and Andy talk about the finale of 'Slow Horses' Season 3, and how the show is set up to be able to try different types of storytelling with each season

Then, they are joined by show creator Will Smith to talk about how they have been able to put out a new season every six months

and working with Gary Oldman to bring the character of Jackson Lamb to life

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