Chris and Andy are joined by ‘Succession’ creator Jesse Armstrong to talk about when he really knew that the show would end after Season 4 (1:00), the influences he pulled from to make this final season (24:22), and how the final scenes of the finale came to be (44:13).Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy GreenwaldGuest: Jesse ArmstrongProducer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy are joined by ‘Succession’ creator Jesse Armstrong to talk about when he really knew that the show would end after Season 4 (1:00), the influences he pulled from to make this final season (24:22), and how the final scenes of the finale came to be (44:13). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy GreenwaldGuest: Jesse ArmstrongProducer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Chris and Andy are joined by ‘Succession’ creator Jesse Armstrong to talk about when he really knew that the show would end after Season 4

the influences he pulled from to make this final season

and how the final scenes of the finale came to be

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Every week, The Ringer's Andy Greenwald and Chris Ryan -- longtime friends and pop culture addicts -- break down the latest in TV, movies, and music.