Chris and Andy are joined by 'Better Call Saul' showrunner Peter Gould to talk about the making of tonight's defining episode (11:17), why 'Better Call Saul' could not exist without 'Breaking Bad' (28:13), and how he's feeling as the show is coming to an end (45:03).Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy GreenwaldGuest: Peter GouldProducer: Mike Wargon Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy are joined by 'Better Call Saul' showrunner Peter Gould to talk about the making of tonight's defining episode (11:17), why 'Better Call Saul' could not exist without 'Breaking Bad' (28:13), and how he's feeling as the show is coming to an end (45:03). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy GreenwaldGuest: Peter GouldProducer: Mike Wargon Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Chris and Andy are joined by 'Better Call Saul' showrunner Peter Gould to talk about the making of tonight's defining episode

why 'Better Call Saul' could not exist without 'Breaking Bad'

and how he's feeling as the show is coming to an end

The Mid-Summer Mailbag

Every week, The Ringer's Andy Greenwald and Chris Ryan -- longtime friends and pop culture addicts -- break down the latest in TV, movies, and music.