Chris and Andy talk about the first two episode of 'Obi-Wan Kenobi' (11:09) and the efforts the show is making to differentiate itself from 'The Mandalorian' and 'The Book of Boba Fett' (23:54). Then they talk about the penultimate episode of 'Top Chef: Houston,' which may be their favorite of the season so far (46:20).Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy GreenwaldProducer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy talk about the first two episode of 'Obi-Wan Kenobi' (11:09) and the efforts the show is making to differentiate itself from 'The Mandalorian' and 'The Book of Boba Fett' (23:54). Then they talk about the penultimate episode of 'Top Chef: Houston,' which may be their favorite of the season so far (46:20). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy GreenwaldProducer: Kaya McMullen Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Chris and Andy talk about the first two episode of 'Obi-Wan Kenobi'

and the efforts the show is making to differentiate itself from 'The Mandalorian' and 'The Book of Boba Fett'

Then they talk about the penultimate episode of 'Top Chef: Houston,' which may be their favorite of the season so far

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