The Uptime Wind Energy Podcast
The Uptime Wind Energy Podcast
Allen Hall, Rosemary Barnes, Joel Saxum & Phil Totaro
Uptime is a renewable energy podcast focused on wind energy and energy storage technologies. Experts Allen Hall, Rosemary Barnes, Joel Saxum and Phil Totaro break down the latest research, tech, and policy.
Vattenfall Ad, NextEra’s US Wind Strategy
The crew discusses Vattenfall's ad featuring Samuel L. Jackson and explore NextEra Energy's strategies amid regulatory changes. They also highlight the importance of inspections and CMS and Rosemary's takeaway from an Australian wind conference. Sign up now for Uptime Tech News, our weekly email update on all things wind technology. This episode is sponsored by Weather Guard Lightning Tech. Learn more about Weather Guard's StrikeTape Wind Turbine LPS retrofit. Follow the show on Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, Linkedin and visit Weather Guard on the web. And subscribe to Rosemary Barnes' YouTube channel here. Have a question we can answer on the show? Email us! Speaker: [00:00:00] You are listening to the Uptime Wind Energy Podcast brought to you by build turbines.com. Learn, train, and be a part of the Clean Energy Revolution. Visit build turbines.com today. Now here's your hosts, Allen Hall, Joel Saxu,, Phil Totaro, and Rosemary Barnes.  Speaker 2: Welcome to the Uptime Wind Energy Podcast from the Queen City, Charlotte. North Carolina. I have Phil Totaro in California, Joel Saxum's back in Texas, and Rosemary Barnes is here from the great country of Australia where Joel and Rosemary, along with Matthew Stead, will be rolling along the countryside visiting with. Wind turbine operators here soon, right Speaker 3: Yeah, so the, the 11th through the 14th, uh, we're gonna be jumping down to Melbourne because of course that's, that's wind central for operators and, uh, ISPs in Australia. And we're gonna be talking about all kinds of stuff with, uh, anybody that listen to us talk. So if you're listening here, uh, and you're in [00:01:00] Australia, connect up, uh, joel.saxo at uh, wg lightning.com. Uh, we'll get some meetings set 'cause we want to, we want to hear what issues are happening down there, right? What can we help with? What can we solve? Of course, Alan and I on the lightning side here, Rosemary is an independent expert engineer for you name it, in turbines. Uh, and our friend Matthew Stat over at iLogic Ping in the CMS space. And amongst the three of us, we also have a huge network, right? So if we're, if we're, if we getting into conversation, getting a chance to chat, tell us what. You got for problems and we'll help you solve 'em. So we'll be down there the 11th or the 14th of August. Uh, reach out.  Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's a lot happening in Australia at the minute. It's starting to come out a winter, getting into blade repair season that is, uh, about to fire up in Australia. A lot going on around the world. And today is Wednesday when we're recording. And this is the day where Vattenfall released their Samuel L. Jackson. Add, it's about a minute long [00:02:00] and you see Samuel L out on the shoreline with a bag of what? Seaweed chips. Joel, is that what they are? Or crackers of some sort?  Speaker 3: Yeah, a hundred percent. I gotta be, I'll be a little bit, little honest with you.
Aug 5
30 min
Massive Wind Runner Plane, India Forces Local Manufacturing
Allen discusses Trump's offshore wind cancellations, Dominion Energy's tariff troubles in Virginia, and India's new wind manufacturing rules helping Suzlon Energy. He also mentions Scotland's massive Berwick Bank approval and Colorado company Radia's ambitious Wind Runner cargo plane project. Sign up now for Uptime Tech News, our weekly email update on all things wind technology. This episode is sponsored by Weather Guard Lightning Tech. Learn more about Weather Guard's StrikeTape Wind Turbine LPS retrofit. Follow the show on Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, Linkedin and visit Weather Guard on the web. And subscribe to Rosemary Barnes' YouTube channel here. Have a question we can answer on the show? Email us! I'm about to tell you about the biggest airplane you've never heard of. A Colorado company called Radia is building what could be the world's largest aircraft. They call it the Wind Runner. And if it is completed it's going to change everything about clean energy. Mark Lundstrom, an aerospace engineer from Boulder, has a simple problem to solve. Wind turbines keep getting bigger and more powerful, but we can't get them where they need to go. Here's why. Offshore wind farms can use turbine blades longer than 105m. But land-based turbines? They're stuck at about 80m. Not because of engineering limits - because of bridges, tunnels, and highway curves. The turbines are simply too big to get under bridges, through tunnels, or around curves, Lundstrom explains. So he's building a monster. The Wind Runner will be three hundred sixty-five feet long with a two hundred sixty-one foot wingspan. That's bigger than a Boeing 747. Much bigger. The payload volume? Twelve times greater than that famous jumbo jet. It'll run on sustainable aviation fuel and land on dirt strips right inside wind farms. Radia aims to complete the first Wind Runner in 2028. By doing this, Lundstrom says, we'll create the path to the cheapest energy in the world. Keep that plane in mind. Because everything else I'm about to tell you connects to that story. Now, let me tell you what's really happening with wind power. It's a story of global momentum meeting American resistance. President Trump just canceled plans to develop new offshore wind projects in federal waters. More than 3.5 million acres had been designated as wind energy areas. Gone. The Bureau of Ocean Energy Management is rescinding all designated wind energy areas. They're ending what they call speculative wind development. Offshore wind projects planned for Texas, Louisiana, Maine, New York, California, and Oregon? Canceled. The Biden administration's five-year schedule to lease federal offshore tracts? History. But here's the twist. While America pulls back, the rest of the world doubles down. Just days after Trump called wind turbines a con job during his visit to Scotland, the Scottish Government approved the world's biggest offshore wind...
Aug 4
3 min
CICNDT Prevents Hidden Blade Failures
Jeremy Heinks, owner of CICNDT, joins the show to discuss the benefits of non-destructive testing (NDT). The conversation covers the impact of storage conditions, transportation damages, and emphasizes the importance of proactive inspection practice for ensuring blade quality. Sign up now for Uptime Tech News, our weekly email update on all things wind technology. This episode is sponsored by Weather Guard Lightning Tech. Learn more about Weather Guard's StrikeTape Wind Turbine LPS retrofit. Follow the show on Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, Linkedin and visit Weather Guard on the web. And subscribe to Rosemary Barnes' YouTube channel here. Have a question we can answer on the show? Email us! Welcome to Uptime Spotlight, shining Light on Wind. Energy's brightest innovators. This is the Progress Powering Tomorrow. Allen Hall: Jeremy, welcome back to the show. Thanks for having me. Well, the recent changes in the IRA bill are. Pushing a lot of projects forward very quickly at the moment, and as we're learning, there's a number of safe harbor blades sitting in yards and a rush to manufacture blades to get them up and meet the, uh, treasury department's criteria for, for being started, whatever that means. At the moment, I think we're gonna see a big question about the quality of the blades, and it seems to me. The cheapest time to quickly [00:01:00] look at your blaze before you start to hang them is while they're still on the ground. And to get some n DT experience out there to make sure that what you're hanging is appropriate. Are you starting to see that push quite yet? No, not not at  Jeremy Heinks: the level we'd like to see it. Um, as far as getting the inspections in, yeah, we have been seeing the push to get the, get these blades out. Uh, but, uh, the, the, the few that we have been able to get our eyes on aren't looking good. The quality definitely down. And we've just had a customer site come back with some, some findings that were surprising for a brand new blade that hasn't been the up tower yet and in use. So, um, it is much easier for us to get the, uh, technology and the personnel to a blade that's on the ground. It's cheaper, it's quicker. We can go through many, many more blades, uh, with inspections. Uh, it's just access is just easier. Always comes down to access.  Joel Saxum: That customer that you had there, like what was their [00:02:00]driver? Right? Did they feel the pain at some point in time? Did they, did they have suspicions of something not right? New factory? Like, I don't know. Why would some, why is someone picking that over someone? Not because like you said, overwhelmingly. The industry doesn't really do this. You know, even just getting visual inspections of blades on the ground before they get hung is tough sometimes with construction schedules and all these different things, moving parts.
Jul 31
35 min
GE Vernova Q2 Results, Massive Iberdrola Share Sale
The Uptime hosts review GE Vernova's Q2 financials, noting strong gas turbine orders and delays in onshore wind. They discuss PTC impacts on future turbine orders and Iberdrola's €5 billion share sale for power grid expansions. An update on Vineyard Wind highlights ongoing blade issues and legal complexities. The wind farm of the week is the Nobles Two Wind Farm in Minnesota. Register for the next SkySpecs Webinar! Sign up now for Uptime Tech News, our weekly email update on all things wind technology. This episode is sponsored by Weather Guard Lightning Tech. Learn more about Weather Guard's StrikeTape Wind Turbine LPS retrofit. Follow the show on Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, Linkedin and visit Weather Guard on the web. And subscribe to Rosemary Barnes' YouTube channel here. Have a question we can answer on the show? Email us! You are listening to the Uptime Wind Energy Podcast brought to you by build turbines.com. Learn, train, and be a part of the Clean Energy Revolution. Visit build turbines.com today. Now, here's your host. Alan Hall, Joel Saxon, Phil Ro, and Rosemary Barnes.  Allen Hall: Welcome back to the Uptime Wind Energy Podcast. I'm Alan Hall from the Queen City, Charlotte, North Carolina, and I got Phil Totaro in Santa Barbara, Cali, and Joel is back in the Lone Star state of Texas near Austin. And. Uh, Q2 results came out from GE Renova. In fact, they had a little webinar this morning to discuss it. Uh, a lot of different aspects to ge. Renova, as we all know, nuclear sort of high voltage, little tiny bit transmission, but, uh, wind of course gas turbines. So they are definitely setting the course for [00:01:00] a gas turbine world. And Phil, how, how far out are orders for their gas turbine products?  Phil Totaro: The last I heard talking to somebody from GE who said it was 2031 at this point, um, although things can be accelerated depending on if you're willing to pay a bit of a premium, they can, uh, you know, move you up in the queue, so to speak. Um, but it's, uh, you know, it's a pretty, uh, far off thing. Um, and unfortunately. You know, it looks like GE hasn't announced a lot of new orders for onshore wind, but nobody has in the United States. Everybody was waiting in Q1 and Q2 to see what the outcome of the production tax credit, uh, changes were gonna be. Now that we have definitive, you know, legislation on that. Um, it's going to actually trigger a lot of safe harbor orders, uh, assuming that companies can actually deliver turbines. [00:02:00] Um, because in order to safe harbor, you actually have to physically receive and store, um, something equivalent to 5% of the CapEx cost of the project. So that has to happen now before. Uh, July, 2026. And because of that, uh, I think you're actually gonna see a lot of companies that had been holding off on placing their turbine supply orders.
Jul 29
37 min
NextEra US Growth, Equinor $1B Loss
Allen discusses NextEra Energy's growth potential amid the new tax bill, Equinor's financial setback in US offshore wind projects, and Statkraft's strategic shift due to falling electricity prices. Additional highlights include Wisconsin's approval of its first long-duration energy storage project, Jupiter Bach's facility expansion in Florida, and record electricity prices in the US power auction. Sign up now for Uptime Tech News, our weekly email update on all things wind technology. This episode is sponsored by Weather Guard Lightning Tech. Learn more about Weather Guard's StrikeTape Wind Turbine LPS retrofit. Follow the show on Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, Linkedin and visit Weather Guard on the web. And subscribe to Rosemary Barnes' YouTube channel here. Have a question we can answer on the show? Email us! US Renewable Energy Leader NextEra Energy says Trump's new tax bill will help the company grow despite concerns about renewable energy credits. The Florida energy giant told investors it can protect most of its wind and solar projects from losing tax credits under the One Big Beautiful Bill Act. NextEra President John Ketchum says the company is already building so many projects that it can lock in tax benefits through twenty twenty nine. Ketchum believes smaller energy companies will struggle to meet the new deadline of July fourth twenty twenty six. That will likely mean less competition and more business for NextEra. Of course, Wall Street analysts are skeptical. Analysts from Jefferies wrote there is a clear long-term challenge ahead for the company. NextEra has signed contracts for three point two gigawatts of new projects since April. And the company is also exploring nuclear energy and small modular reactors. Norwegian energy company Equinor is taking a nearly one billion dollar loss on its US offshore wind projects. The company reported a nine hundred fifty five million dollar impairment in the second quarter. Most of that money is linked to the Empire Wind project off New York and a marine terminal in Brooklyn. Equinor says regulatory changes in the United States have reduced future profits and increased costs for offshore wind projects. Despite the financial hit, Equinor says it is moving forward with Empire Wind One. The company also completed financing for two offshore wind projects in Poland. The company says it remains committed to growing its renewable energy business. Wisconsin regulators have approved the first long-duration energy storage project of its kind in the United States. Alliant Energy will build the Columbia Energy Storage Project using a new carbon dioxide battery system designed by Energy Dome. The project will provide enough electricity to power eighteen thousand Wisconsin homes for ten hours on a single charge. Raja Sundararajan from Alliant Energy says the project will strengthen the power grid and he...
Jul 28
3 min
Blade Lightning Damage Solved
Allen and Joel give the latest update on lightning blade damage. They discuss the results of a lightning damage assessment on 900+ GE Vernova turbines. Read the LM Wind Power Lightning Diverter Rain Erosion test results. Learn more about StrikeTape. Sign up now for Uptime Tech News, our weekly email update on all things wind technology. This episode is sponsored by Weather Guard Lightning Tech. Learn more about Weather Guard's StrikeTape Wind Turbine LPS retrofit. Follow the show on Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, Linkedin and visit Weather Guard on the web. And subscribe to Rosemary Barnes' YouTube channel here. Have a question we can answer on the show? Email us! [00:00:00] Welcome to Uptime Spotlight, shining Light on Wind. Energy's brightest innovators. This is the progress powering tomorrow. Allen Hall: Welcome to the special edition of the Uptime Wind Energy Podcast. I have Joel Saxum along with me. And I'm Allen Hall, and we work for Weather Guard Lightning Tech, and we have not talked about the lightning issues that are happening across the United States at the moment. Also, a good bit of Europe is seeing a number of really catastrophic lightning strikes, and even in South America. So everywhere you look right now, you see a lot of lightning damage, right?  Joel Saxum: Yeah, Allen, I would say this, this spring, early summer, as opposed to years past, we've been getting more and more and more calls, and I think it's a combination of things. I think it's a, it's a combination of, I mean, we've had some extreme weather, right? There's a pretty, it was a [00:01:00] pretty, been a pretty wicked lightning season here in Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, and the center of the United States. But we're also hearing that same thing from India from. Mexico from Brazil, from the Mediterranean, we're hearing it all over the place. So that's happening. But then there's also some awareness, right? There's people that are, you know, in the wind industry as a whole, a lot of, a lot of operators have sat back and relied on their FSAs to handle things. And, and as these costs escalate and they're looking at lightning damages, oh, this is carved out of your FSA or, uh, some insurance companies backing away from insuring them lightning. You're starting to see more and more operators and financial asset operators coming to the table saying, Hey, we have a lighting problem. What can we do to solve it? And that's why our phone's ringing.  Allen Hall: Yeah, it's been nonstop for the last couple of months and, and I would say that some of the damage I've even seen on LinkedIn is shocking. Uh, even today, looking at images from Japan,
Jul 24
30 min
US Renewable Approvals, EDF French Nuclear
The Uptime hosts examine Interior Secretary Doug Burgum's federal oversight mandate, the administration's plan to replace Idaho's cancelled Lava Ridge Wind Farm with six nuclear reactors, and critique a recent wind conference in Australia. The discussion also covers French utility EDF's plan to sell 50% of its North American wind portfolio to raise 2 billion euros for nuclear upgrades in France. Sign up for the next SkySpecs webinar! Register for  UK Offshore Wind Supply Chain Spotlight 2025! Sign up now for Uptime Tech News, our weekly email update on all things wind technology. This episode is sponsored by Weather Guard Lightning Tech. Learn more about Weather Guard's StrikeTape Wind Turbine LPS retrofit. Follow the show on Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, Linkedin and visit Weather Guard on the web. And subscribe to Rosemary Barnes' YouTube channel here. Have a question we can answer on the show? Email us! Allen Hall: [00:00:00] Mark your calendars December 11th at the Royal Highland Center in Edinburgh, because you'll want to be at the UK offshore wind supply chain Spotlight 2025. This isn't just another conference. It's where the UK's offshore wind supply chain comes together. Co-hosted by ORE Catapult and the Offshore Wind Growth Partnership. Spotlight 2025 is where developers connect with suppliers and where the next breakthrough in offshore wind technology gets its moment to shine. So whether you're looking to forge new partnerships, secure critical investments, or simply stay ahead of the curve in this rapidly evolving sector, you'll need to register for this event. Remember December 11th in Edinburg for Spotlight 2025. Just Google. Edinburgh Supply Chain Spotlight 2025. You can register today. You're listening to the Uptime Wind Energy Podcast, brought to you by bill turbines.com. Learn train and be a part of the Clean Energy Revolution. [00:01:00] Visit build turbines.com today. Now here's your hosts, Alan Hall, Joel Saxon, Phil Tartaro, and Rosemary Barnes.  Allen Hall: Well, greetings from Charlotte, North Carolina to the Queen City. I'm Alan Hall and I'm here with Phil Tartaro from the Golden State of California. And Joel Saxon is at an undisclosed location in a secure bunker, so that's not gonna leak out where he is. And Rosemary is enjoying the winter months in beautiful Australia. And we have some interesting topics this week, but I wanna lead off with Rosemary.
Jul 22
18 min
BP Exits US Wind, Masdar and Iberdrola Deal
Alan Hall discusses Jupiter Bach's halted expansion, New York's offshore wind project delays, BP's exit from the US wind market, Maryland's permit defense, and a major clean energy deal in the UK and Germany. Sign up now for Uptime Tech News, our weekly email update on all things wind technology. This episode is sponsored by Weather Guard Lightning Tech. Learn more about Weather Guard's StrikeTape Wind Turbine LPS retrofit. Follow the show on Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, Linkedin and visit Weather Guard on the web. And subscribe to Rosemary Barnes' YouTube channel here. Have a question we can answer on the show? Email us! A major wind turbine supplier in Pensacola, Florida is scaling back expansion plans. Jupiter Bach, a Denmark-based company, is pausing hiring after passage of President Trump's energy bill. The company makes nacelle covers and other components for wind turbines. Plant manager Sean Guidry says the company had planned to grow its local workforce from two hundred forty to more than three hundred twenty employees next year. Now he says they see a more flat year. The policy shift comes after President Trump signed the One Big Beautiful Bill into law earlier this month. The legislation significantly shortens the eligibility window for wind and solar tax credits. Projects must now break ground by twenty twenty-six and enter service by twenty twenty-seven to receive full tax benefits. Previously, those credits were locked in through twenty thirty-two. Guidry says his company had planned an additional one point two million dollars of investments in their Pensacola plant this year. Now those investments are in question. The company supplies components directly to GE Vernova, whose nearby plant assembles complete nacelles for wind energy projects across the country. Guidry urges policymakers to view wind energy as key to U.S. manufacturing and energy independence. He warns that without reliable federal support, the United States could lose ground to China in fast-growing industries that depend on abundant, low-cost electricity. New York State has put the brakes on a major offshore wind project. The New York State Public Service Commission terminated its offshore wind transmission planning process. The commission cited stalled federal permitting as the reason. This halts plans to deliver up to eight gigawatts of offshore wind power into New York City by twenty thirty-three. Commission Chair Rory M. Christian says the uncertainty coming out of Washington forced the state to act. He says quote, "This is not the end. We'll move forward once the federal government resumes permitting." The commission cited recent federal actions halting new offshore wind leasing and permitting. Officials say those actions make short-term project execution unfeasible. Existing projects like South Fork Wind, Empire Wind and Sunrise Wind are unaffected and continue to move forward.
Jul 21
3 min
Utsira Nord Will Lead Offshore Wind
Mads Arild Vedøy and Anders Nash explore the Utsira Nord project and Norway's bid to lead in floating offshore wind technology. They discuss the strategic transition from oil and gas, the unique tender process, and the global implications of a successful execution. Learn more about the Utsira Nord bidding process! Sign up now for Uptime Tech News, our weekly email update on all things wind technology. This episode is sponsored by Weather Guard Lightning Tech. Learn more about Weather Guard's StrikeTape Wind Turbine LPS retrofit. Follow the show on Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, Linkedin and visit Weather Guard on the web. And subscribe to Rosemary Barnes' YouTube channel here. Have a question we can answer on the show? Email us! Welcome to Uptime Spotlight, shining Light on Wind. Energy's brightest innovators. This is the Progress Powering Tomorrow. Allen Hall 2025: Mads and Anders, welcome to the program.  Anders Nash: Thank you. Thanks Allen, for having us. And, uh, it's a show we listen to a lot. So a pleasure to be with you today.  Allen Hall 2025: Well, we, we have a really interesting subject here, and I want to pick. Both your brains a about the, some of the complexities of floating wind in Norway. And, uh, we know that the floating offshore wind industry is still relatively new and it's actually at a critical juncture. And even though we have proven that technology works at scale, it's, we, we don't have large development yet. And that is where Norway is stepping in and changing that equation quite radically. Uh. Let's just back up a minute. The project's called OSU Nord, and [00:01:00] if you haven't been paying attention, you've been missing a lot because, uh, floating wind is gonna be the way of the future. But ultimately, what is the fundamental problem that OSU Nord is trying to solve?  Mads Arild Vedøy: So, of course, uh, node has been kind of on the verge. I, I would say, since the, the, since, at least since 2020, but also even before that with, uh, EOR, uh, launching their, uh, high wind, uh, demo turbine, right? The first world's first floating wind turbine. And Norway really kind of saw itself as a front runner in, in floating wind. Um, fast forward to 2020. The then government opened these areas for offshore wind in Norway with, um, with uja, nor as one of the bigger floating one, right, one and a half gigawatt of floating wind. And what Norway kind of wants to do is to take a position within this market.[00:02:00] It and, and more kind of this industrial perspective rather than for the energy production. Right? Because Norway has, uh, we are self-sufficient for now at least. Uh, but with the electrification going on. We will soon run enough that as well. But, but for now, and the predictions going on to, to 2030, we are Okay. Looking a bit further. It should be,
Jul 17
36 min
New PTC Legislation, AES Potential Sale
Register for the SkySpecs webinar! The crew discusses the resignation of Wind Europe CEO Giles Dickson and his impact on the organization. They examine a new executive order from the White House targeting 'unreliable' wind and solar energy sources, analyzing its potential effects on tax credits and the renewable energy market. Sign up now for Uptime Tech News, our weekly email update on all things wind technology. This episode is sponsored by Weather Guard Lightning Tech. Learn more about Weather Guard's StrikeTape Wind Turbine LPS retrofit. Follow the show on Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, Linkedin and visit Weather Guard on the web. And subscribe to Rosemary Barnes' YouTube channel here. Have a question we can answer on the show? Email us! You are listening to the Uptime Wind Energy Podcast brought to you by build turbines.com. Learn, train, and be a part of the Clean Energy Revolution. Visit build turbines.com today. Now here's your hosts, Alan Hall, Joel Saxon, Phil Totaro, and Rosemary Barnes.  Allen Hall: Welcome to the Uptime Winner d podcast. I'm Alan Hall in the Queen City, Charlotte, North Carolina. I got filter the tower out in California and Joel Saxon is in wet Austin, Texas. It rained again today. The storm waters have been severe, like a hundred year flood Situations in Texas have been very dangerous and a lot of people have been injured down there. yeah, our condolences go out to everybody affected down in Texas and there's supposed to be some more severe. Rainstorms in the East coast of the United States. So hold on tight. there's a lot of news going on [00:01:00] this week around the world. the one that sticks out first and I wanna bring this to the attention of everybody that, if you haven't heard yet, is, wind Europe. CEO Giles Dixon has announced he's stepping down after 10 years as leading WIN Europe. And I was stunned when this happened. And obviously, I. Don't have any influence in when Europe being an American. I just watch from the outside and I, from what I've seen and attended the conferences over in Europe, everything from what I've seen under his tutelage has been great. And the promotional materials and all the information that when Europe provides, has been outstanding. so Giles is going to go back to teaching. He's gonna go back into the schoolhouse. but it, seems like it's a shock to everybody at, Wind Europe, at least that's the outward appearance. Board chair Henrik Anderson, who is the head of Vestus Praise Dixon's, tremendous contribution, noting [00:02:00] that he will leave Wind Europe stronger than he when he arrived. And that's clearly the case. Phil, do you have any insight as to what's going on behind the scenes over in Wind Europe and with Giles?  Phil Totaro: I do not, but I can also speak from personal experience, having met him, I wanna say back in 2018 or probably 2017. and I can certainly attest to the, the work that they've done.
Jul 15
31 min
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