<p>Join us for this conversation where Pastor Randy sits down with his Friend Pastor Aaron Burke. They dive into a great conversation on how we can lead ourselves well so that we can make the most impact!</p>

Nathan Hoeksema

The Relational Leader Podcast was started out of a heart to help Pastors and Leaders navigate ministry. Let's be honest, ministry can be difficult and even lonely at times. Our desire for this Podcast is that we would take off the masks we put on and be open and vulnerable with each other. Each episode we will sit down and engage in life-giving conversation with pastors and leaders. You’ll hear real friends talking about the lows and highs of walking out the call of leadership. It's all on the table!