<p>In this special episode of The Relational Leader Podcast Pastor Randy is joined by none other than John Maxwell!</p>

<p>John shares some powerful principles on how we can all learn to receive a return on failure. Enjoy the conversation!</p>

Pastor Stephen Chandler and Charlotte Gambill Live at Relate Conference

The Relational Leader Podcast was started out of a heart to help Pastors and Leaders navigate ministry. Let's be honest, ministry can be difficult and even lonely at times. Our desire for this Podcast is that we would take off the masks we put on and be open and vulnerable with each other. Each episode we will sit down and engage in life-giving conversation with pastors and leaders. You’ll hear real friends talking about the lows and highs of walking out the call of leadership. It's all on the table!