In Part 2 of a two-part podcast, The Ringer's Bill Simmons is joined by Ryen Russillo to discuss whether the Mavs found something in Game 4 of the Finals, or if the Celtics just sucked. Plus how nervous is Bill heading into Game 5? Then, they chat about why the Lakers haven’t hired a coach yet, and play a game of "What Would You Do?" if they were running the Sixers and Bulls.

Host: Bill Simmons

Guest: Ryen Russillo

Producers: Kyle Crichton and Steve Ceruti

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