This is a conversation from the divine podcast, Rumble Strip. It features Jay Allison about the recent attack on the Corporation for Public Broadcasting. Recently, Congress passed a rescission bill that eliminates $9 billion in previously allocated funding, including $1.1 billion for the Corporation for Public Broadcasting (CPB), which effectively defunds public media, which includes NPR, PBS and member stations around the country. This is a conversation about what that means and what we stand to lose. Jay Allison has been working in and around public radio since it’s beginnings a half century ago. He's been an independent public radio producer, journalist, and teacher since the 1970s. He is the founder of Transom, where I learned to make radio, and 25 years ago he founded WCAI, a public radio station in Woods Hole, Massachusetts. Jay's work has won most of the major broadcasting awards, including six Peabodys. He produces The Moth Radio Hour and was the curator of This I Believe on NPR. Links Adopt a Station: Where you can donate to your local public radio station or find stations to support Transom: The place where good radio begins Information on Transom story trainings Recent New York Times interview with Bill Siemering about the fate of public radio Rumble Strip episode w Jay called Fishing with Jay Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dr. Chioke I'Anson is the visionary force behind the establishment of the VPM + ICA Community Media Center, an innovative collaboration between Virginia Public Media and the Institute for Contemporary Art at VCU. He's also the founder of RESONATE Podcast Festival Congress has voted to rescind public media's funding. Help preserve independent journalism and community programming across America by adopting a station. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Alice Bagley is a farmer, biker and time banker based in Detroit. She was last on the show. Don't miss her episode from 5 years ago on the joyus virtues of throwing seeds! Courtney Daniels is a filmamker and author based in LA. Her new podcast is called Gen X at Midlife, where she talks to people about their experience of life after 50. Subscribe wherever you listen to TBAS! She was last on the show discussing the importance of a good cry. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Teresa Gretsen and Naomi Kreitman are friends based in Amsterdam who love to swim. READ THIS COLD WATER SWIMMING GUIDE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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