The next original insight from Dave Helman will be the first. But seriously, for a 3 man dynamic, it’s surprising and kinda boring how much the same ideas are echoed. I’m sure it’s hard to come up with 3 different ideas for each offseason topic, but I hope there are more conflicting opinions being discussed once real football is being played. I’ve been listening for years and trust Robert to improve this over the course of this season

Look this is the best NFL podcast there is, but for gods sake please no pods with Helman, dude is unlistenable and lacks the insight and seriousness of mays/klassen

This is the best pro football podcast that exists. Period. I was heartbroken when Nate Tice left, but Derrik Klassen and now Dave Helman have made this a three man weave of straight takes, great info, and humor but without the stupid gags of other podcasts. Please keep up the good work, boys!

There is some good content here but, can get far fetched and giddy/geeky/nerd central pretty quickly.

So if your team falls in their approved list and follows their approved team building strategy, great. If you don’t mind the host misprouncing et cetera ad nauseam, great. I really wanted to keep liking this show as really, these are wonderful, high football IQ guys. They nail it most of the time. They just have teams they believe do it right and teams they don’t. I’ll bet they could even tell you exactly who my team is. They’d probably follow that up with, “That’s fair.” I’m sorry guys. I just couldn’t do it anymore. It just got too painful to listen every week, despite your mostly correct analysis on 70% of the teams out there, Ecksettera.

I started listening to TAFS when ATN broke up (shouts to NFLD and HTC). This is a really great resource for all things NFL without the dumb, bro energy I found while looking for an ATN replacement. Just talking ball in an articulate way. Also, I am absolutely loving the new addition of Dave Helman. I wasn’t familiar with his work before but he’s a great hang, shoots straight, and brings a ton of levity to the pod. 10/10

If you like insightful, in-depth commentary about the AFC/NFC south and occasionally the NFC north, this podcast is for you! The quality of insight is high, just never about teams that matter.

The Podcast is great, but there is way too many details. Also Saquon is really good!!!

I listen to many NFL podcasts and this one is a tough listen. I know Robert does his work and is a smart football commentator but I feel like he and his other hosts talk down to the listener like they know more than everyone else and their opinion is gospel. Listening to the NFL QB discussion they don’t mention leadership once as a necessary attribute when an argument can be made that is the most important one. It is tough to listen to these “smart” football podcasters and feel like I am gaining any constructive knowledge.

I’ve enjoyed Robert since his ringer days, I think he’s one of the best nfl podcasts hosts, and I think Derrik has really come into his own taking over for Nate, but even though I keep trying to come back to it I find that I can’t stick with this show for long. I couldn’t really put my finger on why that was until I listened to Robert’s appearance on Bill Barnwell’s show last week. Robert and Derrick agree way too much. Sure they’re smart football guys, but the podcast space is full of people giving smart football analysis and audio format really isn’t that conducive to having deep discussions about a game that’s so visual. Because Robert and Derrik agree way too much their opinions never evolve and the discussion always ends up being the same. And that’s the problem I realized I kept having with the show, after one or two episodes of hearing the same ideas over and over again it just became boring.

As an avid podcast listener who listens to anywhere from four to eight hours of podcasts per day on topics ranging from sports to Christianity to Joe Rogan to movie reviews, this is THE BEST PODCAST. Robert is a simply incredible host. He and Nate had amazing chemistry. Derrik is great too. Robert is a Bears fan but he’s grounded. He’s smart. They do fun topics. They don’t want to just be right. They want to learn. I’ve listened to every podcast for at least the last five years. A+ work. Keep it up.

Robert and Derrik do the work necessary to explain some of the most intricate parts of the game in a really digestible, enjoyable way. Their chemistry is fantastic and their analysis is never pretentious; you can find their joy in every episode. The guests always bring fresh, expert perspectives. To prevent things from getting stale, the podcast looks at topics in a really fresh, interesting way. Their weekly mailbags, annual trade value list along with other beloved gimmicks, and their commitment to covering every corner of the league make this my favorite NFL podcast.

Listen to the episode with Mike Sando where the participants DIDN’T speak over each other.

These guys clearly put the time in and are extremely knowledgeable. Best across the league, in depth football content out there. With that said: Please stop saying “There’s a world where” or “They’re a top 10 O-Line in 700 out of 1000 simulations” every time you make a prediction. Sometimes just say they’ll be good, it’s not a Bayesian Stats lecture. Please stop overdramatizing potential POVs by relating them to poor mental health, i.e., “That’s the opinion of a deeply unwell man” Best, Ben

The podcast episodes are just too long, man. Way too long.

I think Derrik is a great co-host because he has his own insights about players that are also thoughtful

Can’t Give Him His Flowers — and one huge note you two left out in regard to Baker’s 2024 season — he didn’t have his two top receivers for a lot of the season. So it’s not just bc he has Mike Evans. At some point, you’re just going to have to accept that Baker is a good NFL QB.

Mays is excellent and Klassen (whose name auto-incorrected three times) brings his own perspective, without creating fake antagonism or forced confrontation. Mays does push Klassen around a bit, but I believe that is mostly because Robert is very passionate, and Derek interprets that fire as anger, rather than how I hear it—relish for a good argument (as in discussion on differences, not yelling match). They are young, so they think 2000 is ancient NFL history, and thus they sometimes lose perspective—guys did play amazing football in 1960, the year Chuck Bednarik last played both ways (in the true sense). I enjoy their conviviality, though, and I find myself laughing (yes, out loud) when they are having fun—which is most podcasts. Above all, they don’t bluster, or grandstand, and say outlandish things for the sake of being outlandish or grandstanding for audience share. That is hard to find. Of course, I wish they talked about the Browns way more, but it is clear their mothers taught them manners; if you can’t say something nice, then say nothing at all. Maybe this year!

Officially “must listen” territory. Even in the offseason. Robert Mays is a true master of his craft and his co-hosts are excellent.

I dig it! Definitely miss Sando’s episodes and Kiefer & The Beats, but Robert does great work. He’s a killer host who finds ways to keep things interesting deep into the off-season. Some good guests on the program, too. Shout-out to Beller (and his golden pipes) holding it down!

Love the show and their football knowledge, but the guys need to spice it up… it sometime can put me to sleep

That’s it, that’s the show. Data nerds masquerading as football experts. The habitual and blatant disrespect of the SB champs cost you all credibility.

I love the show but it feels like Robert goes out of his way to not talk about the Bears. They’re a fascinating team right now!

Show punches down a bit too much, gets old rather fast. Solid draft preview on prospects.

An excellent football podcast.

the addition of co-host Klassen made this pod insufferable. Its more condescending, mean spirited, and pretentious than it was. And it was already kind of there. Klassen certainly does not have the professional track record to validate his self-righteous, snide, criticisms of actual professionals. It’s tired and its nauseating. Klassen’s record as QB evaluator is pretty horrific, so the absolute lack of self-awareness is grating and makes one wonder why he got the job. It’s just not fun to listen to anymore.

Great podcast but their current “on the clock” shows where the host gives the guest options to choose from always ends up as basically just choose whoever you want. Offering them “best wr, best edge, best dtackle, or a wildcard of their choice” is lazy. Might as well just say pick who you want from everyone available for each pick.

I don’t understand how you guys continue to make Geno Smith out to be a lock top 10 Quarterback in the NFL! This is insane!

Please don’t have this annoying pretentious person on your otherwise regularly awesome show anymore.

Love this podcast but what is up with the sharp S’s? Is there no way to mix that out? I have to turn the volume up to hear Derek better but then when Mays chimes back in I have to turn it down because any word he says with an S is so sharp it hurts my head and my ears. Is it the microphone or the mixing of the audio? Would love if this could get fixed. Otherwise everything else is fantastic!

I understand we work for money but the amount of ads on this podcast are out of control. Dane needs to have his own podcast

Always very insightful and thoughtful analysis and do a good job covering the entire league as opposed to just a select group of teams

They were talking fax in this podcast. And it’s fun to listen to stuff you like.

I’ve been listening to this podcast for over two years now and I’ve learned so much about football. The hosts do a good job at balancing a philosophical and realistic approach to the sport.

My family and I thank you! I was compelled to complain about such foul language before so the least I can do is say thanks for the obvious successful attempts at not swearing so much and bleeping it out when you do. Always have loved the show, so thanks again! 5 stars from us!

I like robert and his knowledge but had stopped listening to the previous version of the show. When derrik joined , i was impressed by derrik. he and Robert are very enjoyable to listen to. Excellent show

Robert Mays is unbearable

Can you please add time stamps to your podcasts? Other shows that go long like you do it. I have stopped listening to your podcast because I only want to hear specific topics but it takes me forever to find them because you don’t put time stamps in the summary.

I was gonna write a review but first let’s take a quick break

Great podcast! I particularly enjoy it while on the plane as it helps me fall asleep without fail.

Increasingly convinced that Derrik is paid by Justin Herbert’s camp to do positive PR

Love the high level analysis! One of my few regular podcasts, and always fun. Don’t always agree with everything, but always makes me think.

The Nerd on Nerd talk gets a little dizzying, I love the classic dichotomy of the the Analytics Guy bantering with the “On the Field” Guy. One can give uniques insights that only data and intense film watching would yield while the other can pull it down to earth and talk about the physicality and reality of what the game entails.

This is not just one of my favorite football pods — but one of my favorite pods on any topic. Mays is one of the truly great hosts and football personalities out there. Knowledgable, curious, and zero smugness (a rarity in this field these days). I always learn a lot listening to this show. Keep up the great work, guys.

I feel like this show wants to be the place where football hipsters come to analyze football in new insightful ways. It also aims to be a place for smart conversations about the game and well-considered, constructive arguments. Thing is, I don’t find your analysis all that insightful. Listened to the first 20 minutes of “What we can learn from the final 4 teams episode” and the first two were “Don’t turn the ball over” and “Run the ball to add consistency to your offense”. Really? That’s what you learned? Should we add “Score more points than your opponent”? Additionally, you show bias quite a bit, which is fine because people are biased by nature, but in the same episode you just include the Lions because you want to. Is there something to be learned by the Commies beating them? I’m not sure, but why bend the rule there? All in all, I try this show out every couple months wanting it to be better but I get disappointed.

just fine. noticeably worse during the 2024-2025 season.

Enjoy the show and the personalities. Rarely keep up with the dissection of the plays but keeping up with the enthusiasm in the explanations is a breeze🙂 Can someone address the new colors on the logo this week? Something to do with playoffs? bye!

Love the show. As a high school OC and NFL junkie, the knowledge and insight on this pod makes it a must listen every week!(Miss Nate though) @Coach_Cohen1

Best part are the recaps after games and season previews dissecting each team division by division. I also love you guys talking about coaching carousel decisions. Want to make it better: get Mike Sando on midweek shows regularly. Yes, I miss him and Randy. Maybe pair him with Zak Keefer.

This show is joyful. The hosts are having a ball and it’s contagious. They love the NFL and relish talking about it. Breezy good vibes keep me coming back.