This week Kara and Liza recap “Dominance” (Season 4, Episode 20), analyze the horrific Wichita Massacre, and chop it up with the delightful Caren Browning aka CSU Captain Judith Siper.SOURCES:<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/21/us/politics/supreme-court-death-penalty-kansas-carr-brothers.html">The New York Times</a><a href="https://www.oxygen.com/killer-siblings/crime-news/jonathan-reginald-carr-wichita-massacre-rape-murder">Oxygen</a><a href="http://www.wichita-massacre.com/">Wichita-massacre.com</a><a href="https://www.newsweek.com/years-legal-wrangling-leads-upheld-death-sentences-wichita-massacre-brothers-1671881">Newsweek</a><a href="https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2022-01-21/death-sentences-upheld-in-case-dubbed-the-wichita-massacre">US News</a><a href="https://www.cjonline.com/story/news/local/2014/04/21/convicted-multiple-murderer-carr-caught-possessing-sexually-explicit-material/16672043007/">The Topeka Capital-Journal</a><a href="https://www2.ljworld.com/news/2002/nov/05/carrs_found_guilty/">Lawrence Journal-World 1</a><a href="https://www2.ljworld.com/news/2007/jan/29/wichita_murderer_seeking_women_web_site/">Lawrence Journal-World 2</a><a href="https://www.wichita.edu/foundation/spiritofthegiftbiographyproject/biographies/annwalentamusicscholarshipfellowship.php">Wichita State University</a><a href="http://www.forgottenvictims.com/Wichita.htm">Forgottenvictims.com</a><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2002/LAW/10/04/ctv.carr/">CNN</a><a href="https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2002/nov/6/20021106-100122-6840r/">The Washington Times</a><a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/news/wichita-killers-could-be-executed/">CBS News</a><a href="https://www.kake.com/story/43062944/loved-ones-of-wichita-massacre-victim-look-back-on-20th-anniversary">KAKE</a><a href="https://ksufoundation.org/impact/campus-impact/lasting-wildcat-legacy/">Kansas State University Foundation</a><a href="http://www.befortmemorial.com/Bio.htm">Jason Befort Memorial Tournament</a><a href="https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/19356/true-crime-wichita-massacre">Mental Floss</a>WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:‘Sibling Bullying and Abuse: The Hidden Epidemic’ by Darlene Lancer, JD, LMFT<a href="https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/toxic-relationships/202002/sibling-bullying-and-abuse-the-hidden-epidemic">https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/toxic-relationships/202002/sibling-bullying-and-abuse-the-hidden-epidemic</a>Next week’s episode will be “Perverted” (Season 11, Episode 9). See <a href="https://omnystudio.com/listener">omnystudio.com/listener</a> for privacy information.

Perverted w/ Emma Myles

Each week, comedians and amateur detectives Liza Treyger and Kara Klenk break down episodes of NBC’s Law & Order: SVU, take a deep dive into the true crimes they're based on and interview on-screen talent, ranging from big stars to joggers who find the body. These are their stories. Dun dun!

Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have previously guested along with many more! Plus, the two friends frequently take to the stage with live shows featuring a PowerPoint, games and lots of laughs. Go to http://thatsmesseduplive.com or check their Instagram @thatsmesseduppod to check tour dates and get episode homework!

That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark, I Said No Gifts!, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.