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You Don’t Have to Be Wealthy to Eat Healthy - Here’s Why | Jason Karp
1 hour 20 minutes Posted Jul 1, 2025 at 7:00 am.
Introduction
What Inspired Hu Kitchen
Jason’s Health Journey
Why He Started Hu Kitchen
How to Pronounce "Hu Kitchen"
The Story Behind Hu Chocolate
Why Hu Kitchen Closed
From Hu Kitchen to True Food Kitchen
When Jason Discovered True Food Kitchen
How True Food Kitchen Got Started
Removing Seed Oils from True Food Kitchen
Upgrading vs. Downgrading Ingredients
The Grim Truth: Cleaner Food = Lower Profits
How Grocery Stores Prioritize Unhealthy Low-Cost Foods
You Shouldn’t Need to Be Wealthy to Eat Healthy
Changing the System to Favor Clean Ingredients
If You Can Afford a Smartphone, You Can Afford to Eat Healthy
Jason’s Clean Eating Challenge to His Networks
Why the Data on Seed Oils Feels Inconclusive
How ‘The China Study’ Got Debunked
Using Common Sense to Make Decisions on Diet
Synthetic Food Dyes in the United States vs. Abroad
Jason Role in the National Fight Against Food Dyes
How Clean Food Became Political
The Clean Food Movement Needs Compassion
Controlling the Controllables without Getting Neurotic
Jason Karp and HumanCo Social
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257: Jason Karp is the CEO of Human Co, and, like me, eats, sleeps and breathes clean living. Jason’s company is behind Hu Chocolate, True Food Kitchen (one of my favorite restaurants), and Grove Collaborative, to name a few. He and I spoke together at the nutrition round table last fall in Washington D.C., and I am so excited for you to hear about the work he’s done to bring clean food to the masses and catch up with the rest of the world by banning synthetic food dyes. 
Topics Discussed:
→  Why Jason has dedicated his life to clean food   
→ The Hu Chocolate origin story 
→ What it took to make True Food Kitchen 100% seed oil free    
→ How Jason got states to ban synthetic food dyes (yay!) 
→ Why you don’t have to be rich to eat clean 
→ The future of the clean food movement
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Show Links:
→ HumanCo brands - Cosmic Bliss & Against The Grain Gourmet
→ Amara: HUMANCO (20% off discount) - Amara  
→ True Food Kitchen: Mention to your server “JUSTTRUE10” for $10 off of $50 at True Food Kitchen through June 30th - TFK
→ Grove Collaborative: "HUMANCO" will give new customers 25% off orders $75+. Grove
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