Kara and Scott discuss Kash Patel’s defamation lawsuit against The Atlantic, and Donald Trump’s attempt to appease Joe Rogan with an executive order on psychedelics. Then, they break down the U.S. seizure of an Iranian-flagged cargo ship, as JD Vance heads back to Pakistan for peace talks. Plus, Anthropic’s “productive” White House meeting, and Netflix’s push into vertical video and podcasts.

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With great power, comes great scrutiny. Every Tuesday and Friday, journalist Kara Swisher and NYU Professor Scott Galloway offer sharp, unfiltered insights into the biggest stories in tech, business, and politics. They make bold predictions, pick winners and losers, and bicker and banter like no one else. From New York Magazine and the Vox Media Podcast Network.

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