Republicans are trying to get unbelievable concessions in exchange for holding the debt ceiling hostage. Brian interviews former Republican consultant and writer at The Bulwark, Tim Miller, about the ever-growing list of George Santos lies, where a so-called moderate Republican like him fits into politics now, and what he expects to see from the impending Trump-DeSantis feud.

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Written by Brian Tyler Cohen

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