James Rhee is the former CEO of Ashley Stewart, a professor, entrepreneur, and the author of “red helicopter―a parable for our times: lead change with kindness (plus a little math).” Mary Long caught up with Rhee for a conversation about:

- An unlikely turnaround at a retailer serving plus sized, moderate income black women.

- Being kind versus being nice.

- When liabilities can become assets and vice versa.

- Real world goodwill versus the accounting version. 

Companies mentioned: NVDA

Host: Mary Long

Guest: James Rhee

Producer: Ricky Mulvey

Engineer: Rick Engdahl

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