
In this episode of the Econ Dev Show, host Dane Carlson interviews Andrew Miller, a multi-faceted leader who serves as CEO of both the United Way of Skagit County and Tulip Valley Farms, as well as commissioner at Skagit PUD. Miller shares his unique journey from working at major tech companies like Amazon to returning home to Skagit County as an economic developer, only to eventually become the entrepreneur he had been encouraging others to be. The conversation explores the challenges economic developers face when advocating for entrepreneurship and innovation, the resistance to change in established systems, and Miller's decision to "walk the walk" by purchasing a farm business when others wouldn't take the leap.
Ten Actionable Takeaways for Economic Developers
Look for gaps in existing industries where innovation can create new business models (like adding U-pick to traditional tulip festivals)
Study successful elements from adjacent industries and adapt them to your community's assets
Create bridges between urban and rural communities through experiential tourism
Focus on finding and selling what's remarkable about your community to people willing to pay for it
Combine unexpected elements (like Scottish Highland cows with tulips) to create unique attractions
Make agriculture and rural life accessible to urban neighbors who lack farming connections
Consider compound risks when developing agritourism ventures (weather for growing AND weather for visitors)
Use personal availability and storytelling to create authentic connections with visitors
Help passionate people in your community turn their interests into viable businesses
Remember that credentials matter less than passion and willingness to learn in entrepreneurship
Special Guest: Andrew Miller.Sponsored By:Sitehunt: Sitehunt is an AI-enhanced platform that helps economic developers build a comprehensive property database, enabling informed decisions and efficient RFI responses to accelerate site selection and project success.Links:Andrew Miller | LinkedInTulip Valley FarmsThe Colorblind Tulip Farmer - YouTubeTulip Valley Farm | TikTokTulip Valley Farms | Facebooktulipvalleyfarms | InstagramEp. 376: Destination Marketing Insights From a Colorblind Tulip Farmer with Andrew Miller - YouTubeHow Will You Measure Your Life? by Clayton M. Christensen
Jul 28
22 min

In this episode of the Econ Dev Show, host Dane Carlson welcomes back Ilana Preuss, founder and CEO of Recast City, for a follow-up conversation four years after her initial appearance on the show. Preuss shares insights on how economic development has evolved and discusses her methodology for helping communities identify and support small-scale manufacturing businesses. The conversation explores how economic developers can create meaningful change with relatively modest investments by focusing on local assets, engaging directly with community members and business owners, and implementing targeted strategies that respond to actual community needs rather than pursuing expensive business recruitment projects.
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Ten Actionable Takeaways for Economic Developers
Engage directly with small-scale manufacturing business owners to understand their specific needs and challenges before creating programs.
Focus on modest, targeted investments ($10K-$20K) rather than expensive business recruitment projects that may not address community needs.
Identify and leverage existing local assets and manufacturing businesses already present in your community.
Meet with property owners to understand real estate availability and constraints for small manufacturing businesses.
Analyze community feedback to prioritize actions that will create the biggest impact based on local goals and beneficiaries.
Create short-term wins that build momentum toward longer-term, more complex development projects.
Thread the line between community assets, needs, and goals to develop effective priority strategies.
Focus on de-risking economic development investments by ensuring projects respond to actual community needs.
Build "sticky" communities by creating places where interesting commercial activity takes place and people want to be.
Use systematic methods to gather information from stakeholders and translate that into actionable development strategies.
Special Guest: Ilana Preuss.Sponsored By:Sitehunt: Sitehunt is an AI-enhanced platform that helps economic developers build a comprehensive property database, enabling informed decisions and efficient RFI responses to accelerate site selection and project success.Links:Ilana Preuss | LinkedInRecast City LLCRecast Your City: How to Save Your Downtown with Small-Scale Manufacturing by Ilana PreussRecast Your City
Jul 21
31 min

In this episode of the Econ Dev Show, Dane Carlson sits down with Jason El Koubi, President and CEO of the Virginia Economic Development Partnership, to explore the intersection of analytical thinking and economic development leadership.
Jason discusses how his engineering background shapes his systems-thinking approach to economic development, the value of hiring talent from competitive states like Georgia, North Carolina, and Ohio, and the importance of continuous learning in the profession.
He emphasizes the critical role of passion, ethics, and effective communication in economic development work, while sharing insights from his recent 360-degree evaluation and his commitment to ensuring positive economic growth across all regions of Virginia.
Like this show? Please leave us a review here — even one sentence helps! Special Guest: Jason El Koubi.Sponsored By:Sitehunt: Sitehunt is an AI-enhanced platform that helps economic developers build a comprehensive property database, enabling informed decisions and efficient RFI responses to accelerate site selection and project success.Links:Jason El Koubi | LinkedInVirginia Economic Development PartnershipVirginia Economic Development Partnership | LinkedIn
Jul 14
35 min

In this episode of the Econ Dev Show, host Dane Carlson speaks with Shani Coleman, Director of Community and Economic Development for Clark County, Nevada, about the economic transformation happening beyond the famous Las Vegas Strip.
Coleman shares insights into how professional sports teams, including the Raiders, Golden Knights, and upcoming MLB team, are driving a new sports innovation economy.
She discusses the county's five-year-old economic development department, their focus on small business support, the challenges of federal land ownership, and how California's regulatory environment is driving business migration to Nevada.
The conversation covers everything from hotel rooms of the future at Harry Reid Tech Park to plans for advanced manufacturing in areas near the proposed second airport.
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Ten Actionable Takeaways for Economic Developers
Lean into your existing assets - Don't shy away from what makes your community unique; figure out how to leverage those assets for economic development advantage.
Build comprehensive small business support programs - Create virtual platforms and technical assistance programs that help small businesses understand public contracting opportunities and build resilience.
Develop specialized innovation districts - Designate physical locations with boots-on-the-ground support to create environments where entrepreneurs and innovative businesses can thrive.
Create business-friendly digital tools - Develop project estimators and online resources that help businesses understand licensing, permitting, and operational costs upfront.
Focus on business retention and expansion - Don't just recruit new businesses; actively support existing businesses in growing and hiring more employees.
Build venture capital ecosystems - Work with organizations that support both entrepreneurs seeking funding and individuals wanting to become venture capitalists.
Capitalize on proximity advantages - Use geographic location and transportation access as selling points for logistics and distribution opportunities.
Plan for future land development - Engage in master planning activities even when land ownership is complicated to be ready when opportunities arise.
Diversify beyond traditional industries - Look for ways emerging sectors (like sports innovation) can create new economic opportunities in your community.
Network strategically and tell your story - Use podcasts, conferences, and digital platforms to communicate your community's business opportunities to site selectors and potential investors.
Special Guest: Shani Coleman.Sponsored By:Sitehunt: Sitehunt is an AI-enhanced platform that helps economic developers build a comprehensive property database, enabling informed decisions and efficient RFI responses to accelerate site selection and project success.Links:Shani Coleman | LinkedInClark County OCEDClark County leader: Even as economy recovers, diversifying remains paramount
Jul 7
26 min

In this episode of the Econ Dev Show, host Dane Carlson sits down with Kevin Crowder, author of "Red Tape Empire" and publisher of Street Economics Daily, to explore the intersection of fiction and reality in economic development.
Crowder shares the inspiration behind his novel, which tells the story of a woman returning to revitalize her family business while battling bureaucratic obstacles, a narrative rooted in his real experiences working in Miami Beach development.
The conversation delves into pivotal moments like the 1986 Calvin Klein campaign that transformed South Beach from European catalog shoots to a celebrity fashion destination, illustrating how strategic exposure can unlock a city's hidden potential.
Crowder emphasizes the ongoing challenges economic developers face, from navigating red tape to managing the tension between preserving the status quo and embracing transformative change.
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Ten Actionable Takeaways for Economic Developers
Identify your community's hidden assets that could attract new audiences if properly exposed
Use storytelling and fiction to process and share complex development experiences in relatable ways
Look for strategic partnerships with creative industries (fashion, film, media) to showcase your location
Document and learn from pivotal moments that transformed other communities for replication strategies
Develop the political will and stakeholder buy-in necessary to move beyond status quo thinking
Anticipate and plan for resistance from established interests when proposing transformative changes
Focus on "exposure" opportunities that can shift perceptions and attract new investment
Build relationships with entrepreneurs who can see potential where others see problems
Create accessible content (newsletters, social media) to share development insights with broader audiences
Recognize that successful economic development requires both strategic vision and the force of will to execute despite obstacles
Special Guest: Kevin Crowder.Sponsored By:Sitehunt: Sitehunt is an AI-enhanced platform that helps economic developers build a comprehensive property database, enabling informed decisions and efficient RFI responses to accelerate site selection and project success.Links:Kevin Crowder, EDP | LinkedInBusinessFlareRed Tape Empire: You can't beat city hall until you have nothing left to lose by Kevin CrowderKevin Crowder (@businessflareofficial) • InstagramKevin Crowder, CEcD (@BusinessFlare) / XAll of Kevin's books
Jun 30
45 min

In this episode of the Econ Dev Show, Dane Carlson sits down with April Mason, president and founder of Violet PR, a boutique public relations agency specializing in economic development. April explains the difference between earned and paid media, sharing how editorial coverage can be worth five to seven times more valuable than advertising because of its inherent credibility.
The conversation covers newsjacking techniques, where PR professionals quickly tie current news events to their clients' stories, and explores how economic development PR differs from consumer-focused campaigns by focusing on business trends, tax incentives, and workforce development rather than lifestyle content.
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Ten Actionable Takeaways for Economic Developers
Monitor news headlines daily and hold weekly team meetings to identify PR opportunities
Focus on earning editorial coverage rather than paying for advertisements for 5-7x better credibility
Develop a newsjacking strategy to quickly tie breaking news to your organization's strengths
Pitch thought leadership articles to trade publications in your industry
Create redundant systems or unique selling points that can become newsworthy angles
Build relationships with journalists who cover economic development and business topics
Develop spokespeople who can provide expert commentary on industry trends
Differentiate your PR approach from consumer marketing by focusing on business fundamentals
Leverage client successes and unique infrastructure as story angles
Maintain a proactive media relations strategy rather than waiting for news to happen
Special Guest: April Mason.Sponsored By:Sitehunt: Sitehunt is an AI-enhanced platform that helps economic developers build a comprehensive property database, enabling informed decisions and efficient RFI responses to accelerate site selection and project success.Links:Top Boutique PR Firm Rebrands: We Write the Future | Violet PRViolet PR | Boutique Public Relations Agency for Economic Development
Jun 23
27 min

In this episode of the Econ Dev Show, Dane Carlson interviews Sophia Zheng, Founder and CEO of Bludot Technologies, a startup initially incubated through a unique collaboration with a city’s economic development department.
Sophia explains how Bludot’s innovative platform helps more than 150 communities across the U.S. and Canada retain and expand local businesses through advanced data analytics and digital incentives. She dives into the successful Open Rewards program, a community-wide shop-local initiative, and explores how technologies like AI could further enhance business retention and expansion strategies. Sophia also highlights Bludot’s achievements, including recognition in Govtech 100 and AWS GovtechStart, as well as USDA NIFA grants for supporting rural economic development.
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Ten Actionable Takeaways for Economic Developers
Consider launching digital reward programs to incentivize local spending.
Centralize your local business data for effective business retention strategies.
Leverage consumer data to tailor shop-local campaigns to specific areas or seasons.
Minimize barriers for businesses to participate in city-sponsored programs.
Regularly evaluate and track consumer behaviors to measure the impact of your initiatives.
Use qualitative consumer feedback to validate program effectiveness.
Collaborate with local chambers, business districts, and main streets for increased program reach.
Explore targeted incentives to revitalize specific economic zones.
Integrate technology-driven solutions to streamline business support and retention processes.
Continuously innovate engagement tactics to keep consumers excited and actively shopping locally.
Special Guest: Sophia Zheng.Sponsored By:Sitehunt: Sitehunt is an AI-enhanced platform that helps economic developers build a comprehensive property database, enabling informed decisions and efficient RFI responses to accelerate site selection and project success.Links:Sophia Zheng | LinkedInBludot | Business Retention & Economic DevelopmentBlog | Bludot Economic Development PlatformCity Beat: Rewards For Local Shoppers In Las Vegas - YouTubeBludot Technologies Inc.: Posts | LinkedIn
Jun 16
25 min

In this episode of the Econ Dev Show (a replay from EDO Breakthrough Podcast episode #10), Sandy Dubay interviews Dane Carlson about his entrepreneurial journey in economic development. Dane shares the deeply personal story behind starting his podcast during COVID while his son underwent cancer treatment, his initial nervousness about hearing his own voice, and his strategy of cold-contacting newly certified economic developers for guests. The conversation explores the challenges economic developers face with changing leadership and boards, before diving into Dane's innovative solution: Sitehunt, an AI-powered platform that transforms how economic developers respond to RFIs by automatically matching community assets with project requirements and generating detailed responses in minutes rather than days.
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To reach Franklin for his podcast editing services, email franklin.carlson@icloud.com.Special Guest: Sandy Dubay.Sponsored By:Sitehunt: Sitehunt is an AI-enhanced platform that helps economic developers build a comprehensive property database, enabling informed decisions and efficient RFI responses to accelerate site selection and project success.Links:SitehuntEDO Breakthrough E10 – Expediting the RFI Process, with Dane Carlson — Expediting the RFI Process, with Dane CarlsonDane Carlson | LinkedIn
Jun 9
33 min

In this episode of the Econ Dev Show, host Dane Carlson sits down with Tom Kucharski, President and CEO of Invest Buffalo Niagara, who has led the organization's transformation efforts for 25 years. Kucharski shares how Buffalo evolved from being the 8th largest U.S. city in 1960 to experiencing devastating industrial decline, and then orchestrating a remarkable comeback that includes the first population growth in decades.
He discusses the region's competitive advantages including clean hydroelectric power from Niagara Falls, the 43 North business plan competition (the largest in the country with $1 million prizes), and securing the nation's only semiconductor tech hub designation. The conversation covers Buffalo's evolution into a hub for manufacturing, life sciences, and technology, while addressing new challenges like housing shortages that come with rapid growth and success.
Like this show? Please leave us a review here — even one sentence helps! Special Guest: Tom Kucharski.Sponsored By:Sitehunt: Sitehunt is an AI-enhanced platform that helps economic developers build a comprehensive property database, enabling informed decisions and efficient RFI responses to accelerate site selection and project success.Links:Tom Kucharski | LinkedInInvest Buffalo Niagara | Grow your Business in Buffalo NiagaraWhy Move to Buffalo? Hear from Those Who Have! - YouTube3/22: Tom Kucharski - HUNT Real Estate Corporation Blog
Jun 2
32 min

In this episode of the Econ Dev Show, Dane Carlson sits down with Barry Broome, President and CEO of the Greater Sacramento Economic Council.
Dane and Barry explore Sacramento's remarkable economic transformation. Barry highlights how Sacramento has leveraged its strategic location 72 miles east of San Francisco to become one of America's premier second-tier markets, emerging as a semiconductor hub while diversifying into clean tech and agricultural research sectors.
Throughout the conversation, Barry shares his data-driven approach to economic development, his passion for working with underdog cities, and the challenges he overcame to build community trust and create a thriving economic ecosystem in California's capital region.
Barry shares insights on economic development, leadership, and the importance of data-driven decisions in driving regional growth.
The episode also covers his personal background, emphasizing Barry's passion for economic development in underdog cities and his experiences in navigating and overcoming initial challenges to build a thriving community.
Timestamps
00:00 Introduction and Welcome
01:20 Discovering Sacramento
02:40 Sacramento's Economic Growth
04:40 Semiconductor Hub Vision
09:44 Infrastructure and Utilities
11:41 Target Sectors Beyond Semiconductors
14:08 Barry Broome's Journey
21:16 Challenges and Achievements
25:20 Building a Strong Board
29:05 Barry's Background and Philosophy
34:55 Conclusion and Contact Information
Ten Actionable Takeaways for Economic Developers
Leverage your geographic proximity to major economic centers; Sacramento's 72-mile distance from San Francisco became a strategic advantage rather than a limitation.
Diversify your economic base beyond traditional anchors; Sacramento moved beyond government dependence to semiconductors, clean tech, and agricultural research.
Position your community as a second-tier market alternative to expensive primary markets, offering similar talent and infrastructure at better cost basis.
Use data-driven decision making to guide your economic development strategy and demonstrate measurable results to stakeholders.
Build strong board governance early; invest time in assembling committed leaders who can provide stability and strategic direction.
Target emerging sectors where your region has natural advantages; Sacramento capitalized on its research universities and proximity to Silicon Valley for semiconductor development.
Develop compelling narratives around your community's diversity and quality of life as competitive advantages for business attraction.
Address infrastructure and utilities proactively as foundational elements for sector-specific development strategies.
Embrace your role as an "underdog city champion"; sometimes the most rewarding opportunities are in communities others overlook.
Focus on long-term relationship building and community trust, understanding that transformational economic development takes years to achieve and sustain.
Special Guest: Barry Broome.Sponsored By:Sitehunt: Sitehunt is an AI-enhanced platform that helps economic developers build a comprehensive property database, enabling informed decisions and efficient RFI responses to accelerate site selection and project success.Links:Barry Broome | LinkedInHome - Greater Sac Economic CouncilThe Way We Work: Barry Broome | Comstock's magazineCalifornia 2030: Greater Sacramento Economic Council President Barry Broome - YouTubeTeam - Greater Sac Economic CouncilThe Semiconductor Industry's Dynamic Nature and Continuous Evolution | NasdaqNews & events - Greater Sac Economic Council
May 26
36 min
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