Josh Mankiewicz catches up with Dennis Murphy about his latest Dateline episode, “Down the Basement Stairs.” Cara Rintala has stood trial four times for the 2010 murder of her wife, Ann, each time in the same Massachusetts courtroom. Dennis tells Josh what prosecutors did differently this time and they discuss the most puzzling evidence in the case … wet paint. Plus, they answer listener questions about the episode.

Listen to the full episode of “Down the Basement Stairs” on Apple: https://apple.co/3Vv85PO

Listen to the full episode on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/5NFVvi4aQKIt5OcqoV9fAd