This week, join Kate and Caroline Moss as they chat through a variety of topics, from nostalgic summers that turned shitty to off-broadway dreams becoming realities in the big city. They discuss things like the Coldplay couple, Labubus, the importance of a modern-day Girls rewatch, the likability trap, Gen Z’s relationship to social media, the attention economy, and, most importantly, Caroline shares her journey to becoming a producer of the off-Broadway play ‘Dilaria,’ starring Conrad Fisher himself (#teamconnie). Enjoy!SUPPORT OUR SPONSORSOrder Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here!Text or leave a voicemail for Kate at 775-HEY-BETH!Hey Beths, did you know all of your favorite podcasts, including Be There in Five are on Amazon Music? All you have to say is ‘Alexa, play the podcast Be There In Five on Amazon Music.’ Or if you’re listening on your phone, just download the Amazon Music app, search for “Be There In Five” and click "Follow."To pick up my amika favorites, go to loveamika.com/bethereinfive. And for the rest of July, amika is giving Be There in Five listeners a one-time use code for 20% off your first order. Yes, that is TWENTY PERCENT OFF from now through July 31. Just go to my page at loveamika.com/bethereinfive and use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout. Get what you’re craving. Try the freshest, best-tasting meal delivery made by your favorite celebrity chefs. Go to

This week, join Kate as she returns to form (2+ hour early BTI5-style rambling) by going through an old PowerPoint she found on her computer about Taylor Swift’s evolution from diary-style songwriter to mythological storyteller through increasingly complex literary references. From "Love Story" fairytale princess to The Albatross and Cassandra the cursed prophet, how has Taylor deliberately written herself into literary archetypes as both artistic strategy and psychological self-defense? TLDR; a chaotic TS deep dive with a (hopefully) entertaining payoff about why our "crazy" fan behavior might actually be anthropologically normal.Topics covered:* The difference between symbolic self-portraiture and literal autobiography* Greek gods vs. monotheistic religious figures (and why it matters for fandom behavior)* Guillermo del Toro's quote about Taylor's "deep interest in fable and myth"* Why "Mastermind" is more about childhood loneliness than strategic planning* "The Albatross" and the Rime of the Ancient Mariner* Why treating artists like gods can be dehumanizing in the name of protection* Finding self-acceptance and/or collective empowerment at pop concerts* A bathroom floor monologue about fairytales and personal authority* And so much more!Enjoy!TRACK FIVE CHICAGO is on Saturday, July 19. Get your tix here!Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here!Text or leave a voicemail for Kate at 775-HEY-BETH!To pick up my amika favorites, go to loveamika.com/bethereinfive. And for the rest of July, amika is giving Be There in Five listeners a one-time use code for 20% off your first order. Yes, that is TWENTY PERCENT OFF from now through July 31. Just go to my page at loveamika.com/bethereinfive and use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout. Thanks to amika for supporting the show!Get ready for Cozy Days! Don’t miss your chance to score Cozy Earth’s biggest discount of the year. From July 11–13, head to cozyearth.com (https://www.google.com/url?q=http://cozyearth.com&sa=D&source=calendar&ust=1752873187343964&usg=AOvVaw0vFzyFz6dFN7b8EYKumuFC) and use code BETHEREINFIVE to get 45% off best-selling, temperature-regulating sheets, apparel, and more. Don’t forget, this deal ends on July 13!

This week, Kate starts by talking about water table culture, Le Creuset mystery boxes, and attempting to reclaim her adult hobbies, then she’s joined by Katie Gatti Tassin (Money with Katie, Diabolical Lies) to talk about her book Rich Girl Nation, which analyzes the unique experiences women have with money and discusses a variety of fascinating cultural, economic, social and financial intersections related to navigating capitalism as a woman. They talk about the co-opting of investment terminology in the name of consumerism and “self-care,” the hot girl hamster wheel of pricey beauty maintenance, as well as touch on societal influences on women's financial habits, the significance of prenups, and effective strategies for negotiating salaries, and more. Enjoy!TRACK FIVE CHICAGO is on Saturday, July 19. Get your tix here (https://www.google.com/url?q=http://bethereinfive.com/live-shows&sa=D&source=calendar&ust=1752267536981109&usg=AOvVaw2qEuT5d1qILkdjTa3MHsh5)!Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here (https://www.google.com/url?q=https://static.macmillan.com/static/smp/one-in-a-millenial/&sa=D&source=calendar&ust=1752267536981109&usg=AOvVaw0Zan3fMWVrZa6UxHqIIBPV)!Text or leave a voicemail for Kate at 775-HEY-BETH!Check out my favs at loveamika.com/bethereinfive and use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout to get 15% off your first order!

This week, Kate reviews America's Sweethearts season 2 on Netflix and tells the tale of how last year's Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders episode became one of BTI5's biggest hits— and biggest headaches. When current DCC members flooded her TikTok comments defending themselves against former teammate Victoria's mild birthday party observations, Kate found herself thunderstruck by cheerleader drama she never saw coming, and she'll never be the same. A year later, Kate returns to process what really went down behind the scenes and what she learned about internet drama, institutional dynamics, and the difference between nice girls and kind people. But she doesn't just break down her personal breakdown, she also recaps season two and reviews the pay negotiations that dominated this season, Shandy's mysterious Bahamas incident, Jada's incredible leadership, Dayton's return to Saturn (but not The Star), and examines how each season humanized the women in different ways. Originally recorded for Patreon, this episode offers a mix of gossipy pop culture, behind-the-scenes scoop, and personal vulnerability that she may regret later. Enjoy!TRACK FIVE CHICAGO is on Saturday, July 19. Get your tix here!Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here!Text or leave a voicemail for Kate at 775-HEY-BETH!For June, amika is giving my listeners a one-time use code for 15% off your first order. Go to my page at loveamika.com/bethereinfive and use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout.

This week, Kate is joined by Nora Princiotti (host of Every Single Album, author of Hit Girls) to talk about the women who built pop's shiniest decade, like Taylor, Britney, Avril, Ashlee,...

This week, Kate tries a tri-deep dive connecting Addison Rae's evolution, Y2K's one-hit wonders, and the overlap of both TRL and Tiktok's pop generations. Through Addison's candid interviews about stepping away from constant content creation, Kate explores how the machine that once discarded the forgotten pop girls of the early 2000s is long gone... or is it? Kate argues that while social media promised to democratize fame, it's actually created a more insidious system where creators internalize the disposability that labels and entertainment gatekeepers used to impose, making the case that Addison Rae represents a new model of how to game the system back.Plus: Relax, Hailey Bieber isn't a billionaire (yet), Kylie's boob job transparency, S Club 7's tragic economics, YM magazine archaeology, and why we need to stop treating one-hit wonders like cautionary tales when they were actually victims of an assembly line designed to churn through young women for profit. Enjoy!Playlists referred to:Making Bead Lizards: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5qBMaMap0SsCAQT2spUU0L?si=75b7f67f73dc48e6Inflatable Chair Lounging: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4ZiUucH8Cl8P6TQ7TqsVVQ?si=qJUnqZNFTouyebseg-wKHwSUPPORT OUR SPONSORSTRACK FIVE CHICAGO is on Saturday, July 19. Get your tix here (https://www.google.com/url?q=http://bethereinfive.com/live-shows&sa=D&source=calendar&ust=1749818255876216&usg=AOvVaw2vW2SfV1vyWAUeFVCoBaqj)!Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here!Text or leave a voicemail for Kate at 775-HEY-BETH!To pick up amika's new line of smoothing/anti-frizz products, go to loveamika.com/bethereinfive. For June, amika is giving my listeners a one-time use code for 15% off your first order. Go to my page at loveamika.com/bethereinfive and use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout. Cozy Earth makes comfort that lasts—and this Father’s Day, he deserves it. Go to cozyearth.com (https://www.google.com/url?q=http://cozyearth.com&sa=D&source=calendar&ust=1749818255876216&usg=AOvVaw1SQezMkdseLIH_XAEKufju) and use code BETHEREINFIVE for 40% off all men's apparel. For the dads who work hard during their 9-5, and deserve the best during their 5-9.Get healthy, glowing skin for summer with clean, vegan face and body care from OSEA. Get 10% off your first order sitewide with code BETHEREINFIVE at

Join Kate on all eight of her days trying to Eat Pray Love. Back to reg programming next episode. Enjoy!SUPPORT OUR SPONSORSOrder Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here (https://www.google.com/url?q=https://static.macmillan.com/static/smp/one-in-a-millenial/&sa=D&source=calendar&ust=1749133048347619&usg=AOvVaw1LVBijTS-nwxR01CrYOn0L)!Text or leave a voicemail for Kate at 775-HEY-BETH!Check out loveamika.com/bethereinfive (https://www.google.com/url?q=http://loveamika.com/bethereinfive&sa=D&source=calendar&ust=1749133048347619&usg=AOvVaw2JkT_YXpsiWsfjVIstZqhY) for my favorites. And for May they are giving my listeners a one-time use code for 15% off your first order through the end of May. Just go to loveamika.com/bethereinfive (https://www.google.com/url?q=http://loveamika.com/bethereinfive&sa=D&source=calendar&ust=1749133048347619&usg=AOvVaw2JkT_YXpsiWsfjVIstZqhY) and use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout.

This week, Kate is joined by her sister Kelly for a classic nostalgic crowdsourced ep with big yearbook staff energy. Listeners submitted their tales related to graduation, senior week, prom, senior pranks, local traditions gone awry, and so much mo...

Kate's having a rough week, so she called in reinforcements (Nora McInerny) to help her discuss the new season of The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, but not before they discuss other pressing pop culture topics like the new pope. Enjoy!

This week, Kate unpacks the art, science, and history of gossip with Kelsey McKinney (from the beloved podcast Normal Gossip and author of NYT bestselling book You Didn't Hear This From Me). They explore a variety of angles for this topic, such as how dismissing gossip as "women's talk" has historically been a tool of patriarchal control, religious institutions, or corporations, etc., and how gossip networks have actually served as feminist resistance channels throughout history. They also examine their complicated relationship with parasocial relationships and "entitlement gossip," forever navigating the fine line between being messy Bs who love tea and recognizing gossip's legitimate social power. Enjoy!SUPPORT OUR SPONSORSOrder Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here!Text or leave a voicemail for Kate at 775-HEY-BETH!For April, Amika is giving the Beths a one-time use code for 15% off your first order through the end of April. Just go to loveamika.com/bethereinfive (https://www.google.com/url?q=http://loveamika.com/bethereinfive&sa=D&source=calendar&ust=1746202709013051&usg=AOvVaw28h-o3Wq6QgG_VFUZ5kzYw) and use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout. That’s loveamika.com/bethereinfive, code BETHEREINFIVE to get 15% off your first order!To celebrate Moms everywhere, this weekend only, May 2-4, Cozy Earth is giving my listeners a special promo: Buy One, Get One Free bamboo pajamas!! Use code BETHEREINFIVEBOGO at cozyearth.com (https://www.google.com/url?q=http://cozyearth.com&sa=D&source=calendar&ust=1746202709013051&usg=AOvVaw0tDaTjW-4x6GvkZRSr_cvM) to take advantage of this! Or Get 40% off with my code BETHEREINFIVE cozyearth.com (https://www.google.com/url?q=http://cozyearth.com&sa=D&source=calendar&ust=1746202709013051&usg=AOvVaw0tDaTjW-4x6GvkZRSr_cvM) for everything else!Ready up for a long day with extraordinary hydration from Liquid I.V. Get 20% off your first order of Liquid I.V. when you go to LIQUID-IV.COM and use code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout. Build your vacation-ready wardrobe from the ground up. Shop the new summer collection and receive 20% off your purchase with the code BETHEREINFIVE at