
Have you ever felt like things were not quite real?
That you were no longer connected to your body or didn’t know who you were?
Nathan Dunne felt this way for years. And it’s never quite stopped affecting the way he sees himself or the world around him.
Today, depersonalisation disorder — and what we know about its symptoms, causes and treatments.
And a heads up, this episode discusses heavy topics such as suicide. Please take care while listening.
Guests:
Nathan Dunne
Author, When Nothing Feels Real
Dr Emma Cernis
Clinical psychologist and researcher
Assisant Professor of Clinical Psychology
University of Birmingham
Centre Lead, Midlands Dissociation & Depersonalisation Centre
Credits:
Presenter/Producer: Sana Qadar
Reporter/Senior Producer: James Bullen
Producer: Rose Kerr
Sound Engineer: Tegan Nicholls
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Memory loss and identity
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Depersonalisation — when Nathan lost his sense of self and nothing felt real (Conversations)
More Information:
When Nothing Feels Real - Nathan Dunne
Unreal: Depersonalisation and Derealisation Support
Like being trapped behind a pane of glass – depersonalisation, derealisation disorder explained (The Conversation, 2025)
Depersonalisation-derealisation as a transdiagnostic treatment target: a scoping review of the evidence in anxiety, depression, and psychosis (Frontiers in Psychology, 2025)
The Prevalence of Depersonalization-Derealization Disorder: A Systematic Review (Journal of Trauma & Dissociation, 2023)
Support resources:
Lifeline 13 11 14
Beyond Blue
Aug 2
30 min

Love it or hate it, there are reasons you might read your star sign and relate to what it says about you as a person.
We all fall into cognitive traps — but if we’re aware of them, is it such a bad thing to indulge in your daily horoscope, or a tarot card reading?
Today, we delve into the occult, to understand why some people seek messages from the universe, and if it can play a role in therapeutic care.
If you want to hear more about otherworldly beliefs, check out our episode Spooky science: What's behind a paranormal experience?
And Soul Search also has an episode called Astrology and tarot — telling the future, or connecting with the present?
Guests:
Professor Susan Krauss Whitbourne
Professor Emerita of Psychological and Brain Sciences, University of Massachusetts Amherst
Ryan Findlay
Psychotherapist and tarot reader
Credits:
Presenter: Sana Qadar
Reporter/producer: Shelby Traynor
Senior producer: James Bullen
Producer: Rose Kerr
Sound engineer: Simon Branthwaite
Extra information:
When It Comes to Personality Tests, a Dose of Skepticism Is a Good Thing
Why You Might Not Want to Trust a Personality Test – Psychology Today
The validity of astrological predictions on marriage and divorce: a longitudinal analysis of Swedish register data
Even the stars think that I am superior: Personality, intelligence and belief in astrology
The Power of Rituals – Psychology Today
Jul 26
34 min

The backpacker killer. The Claremont killer. Ted Bundy. The crimes serial killers commit linger in our memories for decades.
But when was the last time you heard about an active serial killer in the news?
In our final episode of Criminal Psychology, we probe the lead-crime hypothesis, find out about 'chemical castration' and ask — where have all the serial killers gone?
And a heads up that this episode explores some heavy themes including sexual assault, child abuse, suicide and murder. It also contains the names of Aboriginal people who have died. Please take care while listening.
If you've got more questions for our forensic psychiatrist Dr Rajan Darjee, please send them to us! We're going to make a special mail-bag episode featuring your burning true crime questions. Get in touch by emailing us at mind_rn@abc.net.au with the subject line "criminal psychology question".
Guests:
Dr Rajan Darjee
Forensic psychiatrist
Clinical Director, Forensic Behavioural Assessment and Consultation Services
Dr Xanthe Mallett
Criminologist
Associate Professor of Criminology, Central Queensland University
Co-Director, Queensland Centre for Domestic and Family Violence Research
Podcast co-host, Motive and Method
Credits:
Presenter/producer: Sana Qadar
Senior producer: James Bullen
Producer: Rose Kerr
Sound engineer: Emrys Cronin
More information:
The lead-crime hypothesis: A meta-analysis
Support resources:
Beyond Blue
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1800 Respect
Jul 19
32 min

What drives some people to steal compulsively?
This week, as part of our special four-part series Criminal Psychology, we're talking about kleptomania and the impact it can have on a person's life.
We speak to someone who’s been diagnosed with kleptomania about their experiences; from their urges to steal, to the guilt and shame they feel.
We also chat to a psychiatrist about what treatment looks like for people with kleptomania.
Guests:
Lynn
Dr Sam Chamberlain
Professor of Psychiatry, University of Southampton
Credits:
Presenter/Producer: Sana Qadar
Reporter/Senior Producer: James Bullen
Producer: Rose Kerr
Sound Engineer: Emrys Cronin
Voice Actor: Swa Kaushik
More information:
Symptom Severity and Its Clinical Correlates in Kleptomania
A Double-Blind, Placebo-Controlled Study of the Opiate Antagonist, Naltrexone, in the Treatment of Kleptomania
Why do young children sometimes steal? And what should parents do about it?
Kleptomania — Mayo Clinic
Kleptomania and Potential Exacerbating Factors
Jul 12
27 min

Australians know the devastation of bushfires all too well. So why would anyone deliberately light a fire?
In this episode of Criminal Psychology, our new four-part series on unusual crimes and unusual minds, we're exploring the psychology of arson.
Answering questions like, how does it relate to pyromania? What do we know about the profile of a typical arsonist? And how do investigators track down the source of a blaze?
Guests:
Dr Paul Read
Climate criminologist
Dr Nichola Tyler
Senior lecturer, forensic psychology
Swinburne University of Technology
Richard Woods
Director, Wildfire Investigations and Analysis
Adjunct Associate Lecturer, Wildfire Investigation, Charles Sturt University
Credits:
Presenter/producer: Sana Qadar
Senior producer: James Bullen
Producer: Rose Kerr
Sound engineer: Emrys Cronin
Extra information:
Adults with intellectual disabilities and/or autism who deliberately set fires: A systematic review
The truth about Australia's fires — arsonists aren't responsible for many this season
Some Coalition MPs say that arson is mostly to blame for the bushfire crisis. Here are the facts
Deliberately lit vegetation fires in Australia
Clinical characteristics of child and adolescent psychiatric outpatients engaging in fireplay or arson: a case–control study
What are the differences between children and adolescents who deliberately light fires?
The Acquisition of Fire
Jul 5
29 min

Why would any parent lie about their child's health? Or worse, intentionally make their child sick?
In episode one of Criminal Psychology, our new four-part series on unusual crimes and unusual minds, we dive into a disorder that’s long been sensationalised in the media: Munchausen by Proxy – and ask: how do these parents get away with their lies? Can their behaviour ever be reformed?
Guests:
Brenda Bursch, PhD
Director, Pediatric Psychology in Outpatient Subspecialty Pediatrics Program
Professor of Clinical Psychiatry & Biobehavioral Sciences
Professor of Clinical Pediatrics
David Geffen School of Medicine,
University of California, Los Angeles
Professor Jon Jureidini
Child psychiatrist
Research Leader, Robinson Research Institute
University of Adelaide
Credits:
Presenter/producer: Sana Qadar
Senior producer: James Bullen
Producer: Rose Kerr
Executive producer: Petria Ladgrove
Sound engineer: John Jacobs
Extra information:
Munchausen by Proxy: Clinical and Case Management Guidance
APSAC Advisor Volume 30, Issue 1- Munchausen by Proxy Special Issue
Psychological Treatment of Factitious Disorder Imposed on Another/Munchausen by Proxy Abuse
The mothers accused of poisoning their kids
Support resources:
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Jun 26
31 min

On All in the Mind, we investigate why people behave the way they do. But there are some perspectives we don't often hear about.
Introducing Criminal Psychology, a special series diving into just that.
On this four-episode series, we'll cover arson, kleptomania, serial killers and Munchausen by proxy as we look at what drives people to the extremes of human behaviour.
And we'll examine how our understanding of the human mind can better help us to prevent harm.
Whether you're a dedicated fan of true crime or curious about the inner workings of our minds, stay tuned — our first episode is out on Sunday June 29.
Jun 23

Time and time again, Dr Rangan Chatterjee has seen chronic stress wreak havoc on his patients' lives — contributing to autoimmune disorders, gut problems, low libido and more.
But the most devastating blow struck his own family, when his father's punishing work schedule forced him to medically retire in his 50s.
It’s an experience that led Rangan to rethink his own work and approach to medicine.
Today, Dr Chatterjee, a GP and host of a mega popular wellbeing podcast, shares his story, as well as strategies for better managing stress in your own life.
Guest:
Dr Rangan Chatterjee
GP, author and host of Feel Better, Live More
Credits:
Presenter/producer: Sana Qadar
Senior producer: James Bullen
Producer: Rose Kerr
Sound engineer: Tegan Nicholls
More information:
Rangan's Australian tour
Jun 21
32 min

Loneliness hurts. And we know it's bad for us, worse than smoking or obesity. Even though a third of us are lonely, we're embarrassed to say so.
So, what would happen if we talked about our loneliness openly? And how can we build more meaningful connections?
This week we have a special episode from our friends at Ladies, We Need To Talk.
Host Yumi Stynes speaks to women who are lonely, one within a marriage and one hoping to find a partner, to understand the toll it can take. Plus, psychologist Dr Bella Ingram shares tips on how we can insulate ourselves from the chill of being lonely.
More information:
Ending Loneliness Report
Resources:
Beyond Blue
Lifeline 13 11 14
Jun 14
32 min

Concussions are hard to diagnose, often get missed, and don't always get taken seriously.
And if you're not a professional athlete, it can be surprisingly hard to get clear information on how to manage and recover afterwards. Why?
The brain is your most important organ, after all!
This week, we try and make sense of the confusion around concussions.
This episode was first broadcast in October 2023.
Guests:
Dr Lewis Freeth
Psychiatrist
Kate
Naznin Virji-Babul
Physical therapist and neuroscientist
Associate Professor, Department of Physical Therapy Faculty of Medicine
University of British Columbia
Shreya Mcleod
Physiotherapist
Lecturer, Australian Catholic University
PhD candidate, University of Newcastle
Credits:
Presenter/producer: Sana Qadar
Producer: Rose Kerr
Sound engineer: Russell Stapleton
Jun 7
30 min
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