Pre-Show: Casey and Marco are sad Ben Rice McCarthy Under the Radar Follow-up: 🗣️ It’s St. Jude time again! 🗣️ The Marco Offset Anonymous crushes the dreams of Marco and Casey about cellular MacBooks Another Anonymous shares a bit too much information about accidental Siri activations 😆 🤬 John’s AppleCare One update 🤬 Help with Trackpad dragging System Settings → Accessibility → Pointer Control → Trackpad Options… → Dragging Style → Three Finger Drag Screenshot …or Drag Lock Masimo comes for [more] blood UK drops utterly bananas backdoor legislation Studio Display with A19 Daniel Luz points out makes a funny comparison to Macs Fabian Häusler theorizes it’s about binning Apple’s Hide my Email feature An unexpected wrinkle Timothy Martin points out Anecdote from David Beck Apple Event: 9 September 1PM OTTZ Interactive logo Still image for posterity Reverse-engineering by sam henri gold “TechWoven” and “Liquid Silicone” cases leaked Maijin Bu on TechWoven …and on Liquid Silicone (and again) Apple will simplify the Camera Control button Ask ATP: What’s the ∆ between snapshots and backups? (via Phil Hirst) Hyperspace Why is Finder slow to delete files? (via Dan) How will Apple reconcile AI and carbon neutrality? (via Sam Hunt) Post-show: Some venting about politics and 𝓍26. Jeff Atwood’s post John’s reply There’s nothing Republicans won’t ruin Members-only ATP Overtime: Rumored Apple roadmap Apple readies first upgrade to its struggling Vision Pro headset Sponsored by: DeleteMe: Making it quick, easy and safe to remove your personal data online. Sentry: A real-time error monitoring and tracing platform Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Pre-Show: AI slop vs. not… so… AI… slop AITAH Follow-up: Casey spends 24 hours with iOS 26 on his carry phone John’s dancing controls ☝️ Well, actually ☝️, myriad of is okay (via Jason Eccles) Merriam-Webster’s take Are size classes similar to today’s design changes? (via Bryan Guffey) Auto Layout John’s HomePod has risen from the dead! Nic’s Fix Watch John’s actual repair happen 🍿 John would like to air some AppleCare One grievances 🍿 John’s tantrum AppleCare One Terms & Conditions Blood oxygen with Apple Watch [sorta] returns to the US Gruber’s take Victoria Song at The Verge 😳🥳 M5 MacBook Pro with cellular is coming‽ 🎉😳 A19 Pro in Studio Display 2? Previously, in low-cost MacBook rumors: A18 Pro Your Mac game is probably rendering blurry CGDisplayCopyAllDisplayModes() FB13375033 Ask ATP: Should the name “Siri” be retired? (via Aaron Bushnell) Did Vehicle Motion Cues help John? (via Roly C.) How do we click our trackpads? (via Eli) Post-show: Oh yeah! 🗣️ New ATP Members special: ATP Insider: Vacations 🗣️ Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple’s research into using LLMs to make UIs Apple trained a LLM to teach itself good SwiftUI Research paper Stephen Robles’ video Sponsored by: Hello Fresh: America’s #1 Meal Kit. Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code atp. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Pre-Show: Marco and Casey’s no-good, very bad days. Follow-up: Casey didn’t read the fine print on Express Replacement 🤦🏻‍♂️ Short Pump John cycled his mouse again AppleCare One Moving a device on a payment plan (via “Clark Griswold” and Anonymous) Tina’s iPhone Tina’s Mac Studio Tahoe beta 5: checkbox contrast improves iOS 26 beta 6 Liquid glass changes Smart TV interfaces over time “Shortcut” New Magic Remote Running your own mail server How does iCloud-on-your-domain work? (via potato.zip) Hide my Email (via Peter Puleio) Jason Diller thinks it’s not so bad Post-quantum cryptography Harvest now, decrypt later (via Lisa Ugray) Since iOS 17.4 for iMessage (via Saul Sutherland) Apple Security Research blog post Compelled adoption (via Brian Jarvis) Chrome adopted it in 2024 (via sayrer) 2024: State of post-quantum internet 2025: Update John wages war against icons Adopting Liquid Glass: App Icons WWDC 2025 #361: Create Icons with Icon Composer John’s Mastodon thread Václav Slavík’s solution FB19437407 FB19497128 FB17892659 There’s likely to be a lot more of this Ask ATP: Is Liquid Glass on macOS a subtle move toward touchscreen Macs? (via Daniel Liu) How does one build a “good product sense”? (via Ian Anderson) Inspired by Marty Cagan How does one effectively de-duplicate photos using Photos.app? (via Keith Heaton) Post-show: Marco’s air-conditioning “update” Members-only ATP Overtime: AI voice control as a threat to Apple’s platforms Apple’s Upcoming AI Voice Control will Change how People Use iPhones Sponsored by: Factor: Healthy Eating, Made Easy. Get 50% off plus free shipping on your first box. 1Password: Award-winning password manager trusted by millions of users. Sentry: A real-time error monitoring and tracing platform. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Pre-Show: Brief vacation results Tim Cook kisses the… ring Video Follow-up: HDTVTest reviews Sony Bravia 8 II and Panasonic Z95B TV shootout results Nilay’s comments AppleCare One iCareCalculator Reddit post (removed by moderators) iCare Calculator web app John’s experience B&H Casey’s roughly equivalent Mac, available for special order Retro computing corner Revisiting eWorld More on Tahoe Gus Mueller …on checkboxes …on sliders Beta 5 improves selection legibility Ejecting USB storage in Windows (via Justin Bradford) Bleeping computer Art & science of UI design Game design concepts in software (via Wes Davis) iPhone 17’s rumored new MagSafe design Majin Bu iPhone 16 Apple’s “Answers” team Ask ATP: How can one improve the experience of a permanent-mount SSD on a laptop? Jettison Why is Xcode so thirsty? (via Geoff) Time Machine local snapshots Deleting snapshots with Disk Utility DevCleaner (App Store link) Github GrandPerspective Disk Inventory X DaisyDisk How are we dealing with spam? (via Alan Bailward) SpamSieve MailRoute Fastmail Post-show: Apple Express Replacement Members-only ATP Overtime: Post-Quantum Cryptography networking in the 𝓍26 OSes Prepare your network for quantum-secure encryption in TLS Sponsored by: DeleteMe: Making it quick, easy and safe to remove your personal data online. Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code atp. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Pre-Show: Casey’s french-fry problem Follow-up: D. Griffin Jones takes one for the team Casey’s struggles with iperf3 Tutorial iperf3 -t 60 -c {ip} -P 4 -i 10 -R John’s new toaster and E01 (via J-P Teti & John F.) Chemical vs. physical sunscreen (via Prodan Statev) Research paper Apple security for unreleased devices Low-cost Apple laptop (via Jason Anthony Guy) Ed: Please don’t give Apple ideas like this. 🫣 Getting customer support from Apple (via Patch) Apple support app → Chat Any retail store on Apple Maps → ... → Message CloudFlare & AI crawlers Thoughts from Thomas Schoffelen Thoughts from Aaron Zinck Thoughts from Anonymous JA3/JA4 fingerprint The 𝓍26 public betas are out Under the Radar #323: The Tidal Wave Tahoe beta 4 Contrast will decrease until morale improves Startup disk selection (cropped) Startup disk selection (full) News summaries are back, baby! 😬 Apple and interfaces Tog in Interface (1992) Amazon NNG Tog on Software Design (1995) Amazon NNG Apple’s Aqua introduction, Macworld San Francisco, 2000 AppleCare One Dan Moren’s take The Verge Fees & deductibles FAQ (scroll way down) Post-show: John has an addendum to his earlier topic Members-only ATP Overtime: Frame of preference, an incredible exploration of the Mac’s settings by Marcin Wichary in concert with Mihai Parparita of the Infinite Mac Project Marcin’s announcement Mihai’s associated announcement Embed Infinite Mac Infinite Mac Construction Set Sponsored by: Members like you! Become a member for ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Pre-Show: Casey did Marco’s favorite thing CalDigit TS5+ (affiliate link) CalDigit TS5+ (product page) iperf3 Follow-up: F1 (the sport, not the movie) Apple expected to win 🇺🇸 rights F1 TV Vroom John’s video != Casey’s immersive ride-along To see the immersive ride-along, you need to be wearing a Vision Pro; scroll down on that link John’s toaster update AirPods & AppleCare+ Keratoconus Water resistance IP54 AirPods Express Replacement Service B&H Reverting to “normal” tabs in Tahoe (via ST-S) defaults write -g NSSolariumWindowTabs -bool NO Low-cost Apple laptop with A18 Pro mandonam Apple sues leaker Jon Prosser for stealing iOS secrets 99% Invisible #626: Emoji Law Gruber’s theorized redactions Gruber’s predictions Cloudflare Declares Content Independence Day Press release ChangeDetection.io Stratechery (paywalled) Post-show: Marco solved sunscreen John’s hat that he likes John’s hat that is cheaper but that he likes less 🇯🇵 Skin Aqua Super Moisture UV Gel (eBay) 🇪🇺 La Roche-Posay Anthelios UVmune 400 Invisible Fluid, Non-Perfumed (eBay) Australian sunscreen video Members-only ATP Overtime: Is copying Apple hardware a good idea? Kuycon G32P 6K 32” IPS monitor Video review by Oliur / UltraLinx ASUS 32” 6K ProArt display Previously on ATP overtime D. Griffin Jones’ review of the 5K Studio Display Mark II coming in early 2026? Sponsored by: Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code atp. DeleteMe: Making it quick, easy and safe to remove your personal data online. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Pre-Show: Live music & failed air conditioners 🗣️ New ATP Members Special: Tier List: Pizza Toppings Follow-up: Meta Hires Top Apple AI Models Executive SFSymbols 🤝🏻 Tahoe Folders Standard SFSymbol: xattr -w 'com.apple.icon.folder#S' '{"sym":"camera.viewfinder"}' folder Private SFSymbol: xattr-w 'com.apple.icon.folder#S' '{"sym":"solar.system"}' folder Random string: xattr -w 'com.apple.icon.folder#S' '{"emoji": "HIMOM"}' folder FB18022272: “summary” symbol missing in SF Symbols 7 developer beta Toolbars Safari Beta 1 image Beta 3 image The Guardian (good example for messing around with the toolbar) Terminal Beta 1 image Beta 3 image iOS 26 Beta 3 Direct video link _David Smith’s beta 2 (?) video Stephen Hackett’s beta 3 video Matt Birchler: Liquid glass, now with frosted tips Steve Troughton-Smith pours water on the fire YouTube’s new player UI “Clear” iPhone mock-up was by Gavin Nelson in April 2025 HDR controls in iOS 26 (via Gui Rambo) Demo project ✌️ out, Jeff Williams Gruber Gurman Casey ponders the purpose of AppleCare Casey in Dongletown Post-show: John & Casey review F1 Plumber Problem Guenther Steiner Brad Pitt drives a F1 car for the first time Vision Pro Brad Pitt ride-along (Vision Pro users, scroll down) Casey’s pinball machine Members-only ATP Overtime: 2020 Hindsight John Giannandrea Sponsored by: Notion: Your notes, docs, and projects in one space. Hello Fresh: America’s #1 meal kit. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Pre-Show: John’s almost an empty-nester 😱 Reconcilable Differences Follow-up: FireWire now with Thunderbolt! (via Timo Hetzel) Tahoe without Xcode beta: Device Support for macOS 26 Beta Developer downloads ↳ Direct link Putting older OSes on newer hardware (via Gui Rambo) UPS VA ratings (via Marshall C) Apple’s LLM/LRM paper (from Overtime in ATP #643) Training data vs. distribution (via Deon Garrett) Rebuttal Rebuttal of the rebuttal More from Gary Marcus The original rebuttal was… a joke? 🤨 HDR in 𝑥26 iPadOS 26 window limits “Glass iPhone” demo ↳ Direct video link That “natural language to CLI” app is Substage Apple plans to launch a low-cost MacBook powered by… an iPhone CPU‽ Apple A18 References spotted in code Jason on A18 speed Stephen on the technical limitations Ask ATP: Is adding permanent NVMe storage a bad plan? (via Neil) CalDigit TS5+ What’s the best way to increase “internal” storage on a Mac? iSCSI? Mounted disc images? (via Patrick Harms) Atto Xtend SAN How does a new grad land a job? Post-show: Casey’s approach to ad-free YouTube must be dissected YouTube Premium Lite Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple’s App Store changes for the EU Jason’s coverage Store Services tiers in the EU Gruber’s summary Cranky man remains cranky Steve Troughton-Smith’s take The Verge Sponsored by: DeleteMe: Making it quick, easy and safe to remove your personal data online. Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code atp. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Pre-Show: John has made an important purchase 11 June 2011 Documentation of the journey (spoilers!) John’s beloved Ninja Anova After Dark Follow-up: We’re doing good work here, folks YoLink leak sensors Leak sensor 4-pack with compulsory hub Travel insurance is more than you think it is (via Jason Poole and Levi Dalton) Allianz concierge Window widget size in Tahoe Apple Intelligence is now allowed when booting from an external in Tahoe beta 2 Floating tab bars in iOS 26 Apple “Ducks” The Architect’s Lions Maybe don’t yank out removable storage in Windows either (via Adrian Mester) It’s the world that’s wrong, not me: iPhone 16 Pro case edition “We Messed Up” Bullstrap open-bottom case Ads in YouTube Why not use uBlock Origin? (via Igor Kulman) …or perhaps Vinegar (App Store link) (via Michael Brown) RIP FireWire Apple marketing continues to misfire Apple weighs using Anthropic or OpenAI to power Siri OpenAI/Meta leadership talent rivalry Ask ATP: Is it worth buying a laptop where Tahoe is preinstalled? (via François-Olivier Leblanc) How much faster will an M4 be than an M1 for Xcode Simulator launches? (via Alistair Logie) How do we choose a new UPS? (via David Levine) John’s pick Casey’s pick ATP #569 Eaton UPSes Post-show: Marco restaurant-tech MVPs… from his co-hosts! Tailscale (Tailscale is a prior sponsor) Casey’s introductory post Tailscale 4via6 YoLink temperature sensors (even cheaper with a smaller temp. range) Thermoworks VHB Tape Eve Room Members-only ATP Overtime: Should we pay developers like athletes? Sam Altman claims Meta has made $100M offers Jack Altman’s podcast Reuters coverage Sponsored by: Quince: Elevated essentials and staples that last. 1Password: Award-winning password manager trusted by millions of users. Factor: Healthy Eating, Made Easy. Get 50% off plus free shipping on your first box. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Pre-Show: Phish & Wabbit Dave Matthews Season Allianz Ampitheater at Riverfront Belkin UltraGlass 2 Some Administrivia: 🗣️ New ATP Member’s special: ATP Movie Club: Sneakers 🗣️ Sneakers (1992) ATP Performance Shirt Inventory Sale Follow-up: Persistent icon replacement helper apps Pictogram Replacicon Tahoe beta 2 Finder icon updated! Louie Mantia tries again New menu bar background setting! Beta 2, with background Tahoe’s [Not-So-] Naked Robotic Menu Bar (via Vítor) Beta 1, gray Beta 1, red Beta 1, white Safari toolbars (via Lewis Dorigo) Settings → Advanced → Show color in compact tab bar <meta name="theme-color"> theme_color Yosemite Safari tabs From John’s review Installing betas and DFU mode macvdmtool (via Robert Sherry) DFU Blaster (via Brian LaShomb) InstallAssistant.pkg (via Andy Beyer-Bowden) iOS 26 Beta 2 Frost all the things! The case of Marco’s missing download/check buttons Roman’s observation iPadOS 26 window limits (via Jon Edwards) “Apple Vision Pro 4K” (via Greg Kaplan) visionOS what’s new 2048 Threes All your data are belong to AI companies Apple training models on Feedback attachments ಠ_ಠ Original report from Joachim Meta AI staffers take an interesting approach New York Times 🤝🏻 Amazon AI You can train AI models without copyrighted material… it’s just a pain in the 🍑 Anthropic gets a W… maybe? Ask ATP: Does Marco use Apple CarKey? His car should support it. (via Samuel Polay) CarPlay Ultra partners list is looking… sparse Ferrari keyfob Why does macOS want USB mass storage ejected, but iPadOS doesn’t? (via David Campbell) Post-show: TV Update for Marco RTINGS: Sony Bravia 8 II review RTINGS: Bravia 8 II vs. A95L LG G5 RTINGS: LG G5 review HDTVTest: LG G5 review RTINGS: LG’s New Firmware for the G5 Members-only ATP Overtime: Overlap between appdev & gamedev Coyote time & jump buffering Secrets to a great platformer with Unity Destiny health Examples in our apps Sponsored by: Notion: Your notes, docs, and projects in one space. DeleteMe: Making it quick, easy and safe to remove your personal data online. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!