Pre-Show: Brief vacation results Tim Cook kisses the… ring Video Follow-up: HDTVTest reviews Sony Bravia 8 II and Panasonic Z95B TV shootout results Nilay’s comments AppleCare One iCareCalculator Reddit post (removed by moderators) iCare Calculator web app John’s experience B&H Casey’s roughly equivalent Mac, available for special order Retro computing corner Revisiting eWorld More on Tahoe Gus Mueller …on checkboxes …on sliders Beta 5 improves selection legibility Ejecting USB storage in Windows (via Justin Bradford) Bleeping computer Art & science of UI design Game design concepts in software (via Wes Davis) iPhone 17’s rumored new MagSafe design Majin Bu iPhone 16 Apple’s “Answers” team Ask ATP: How can one improve the experience of a permanent-mount SSD on a laptop? Jettison Why is Xcode so thirsty? (via Geoff) Time Machine local snapshots Deleting snapshots with Disk Utility DevCleaner (App Store link) Github GrandPerspective Disk Inventory X DaisyDisk How are we dealing with spam? (via Alan Bailward) SpamSieve MailRoute Fastmail Post-show: Apple Express Replacement Members-only ATP Overtime: Post-Quantum Cryptography networking in the 𝓍26 OSes Prepare your network for quantum-secure encryption in TLS Sponsored by: DeleteMe: Making it quick, easy and safe to remove your personal data online. Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code atp. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Pre-Show: Casey’s french-fry problem Follow-up: D. Griffin Jones takes one for the team Casey’s struggles with iperf3 Tutorial iperf3 -t 60 -c {ip} -P 4 -i 10 -R John’s new toaster and E01 (via J-P Teti & John F.) Chemical vs. physical sunscreen (via Prodan Statev) Research paper Apple security for unreleased devices Low-cost Apple laptop (via Jason Anthony Guy) Ed: Please don’t give Apple ideas like this. 🫣 Getting customer support from Apple (via Patch) Apple support app → Chat Any retail store on Apple Maps → ... → Message CloudFlare & AI crawlers Thoughts from Thomas Schoffelen Thoughts from Aaron Zinck Thoughts from Anonymous JA3/JA4 fingerprint The 𝓍26 public betas are out Under the Radar #323: The Tidal Wave Tahoe beta 4 Contrast will decrease until morale improves Startup disk selection (cropped) Startup disk selection (full) News summaries are back, baby! 😬 Apple and interfaces Tog in Interface (1992) Amazon NNG Tog on Software Design (1995) Amazon NNG Apple’s Aqua introduction, Macworld San Francisco, 2000 AppleCare One Dan Moren’s take The Verge Fees & deductibles FAQ (scroll way down) Post-show: John has an addendum to his earlier topic Members-only ATP Overtime: Frame of preference, an incredible exploration of the Mac’s settings by Marcin Wichary in concert with Mihai Parparita of the Infinite Mac Project Marcin’s announcement Mihai’s associated announcement Embed Infinite Mac Infinite Mac Construction Set Sponsored by: Members like you! Become a member for ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Pre-Show: Casey did Marco’s favorite thing CalDigit TS5+ (affiliate link) CalDigit TS5+ (product page) iperf3 Follow-up: F1 (the sport, not the movie) Apple expected to win 🇺🇸 rights F1 TV Vroom John’s video != Casey’s immersive ride-along To see the immersive ride-along, you need to be wearing a Vision Pro; scroll down on that link John’s toaster update AirPods & AppleCare+ Keratoconus Water resistance IP54 AirPods Express Replacement Service B&H Reverting to “normal” tabs in Tahoe (via ST-S) defaults write -g NSSolariumWindowTabs -bool NO Low-cost Apple laptop with A18 Pro mandonam Apple sues leaker Jon Prosser for stealing iOS secrets 99% Invisible #626: Emoji Law Gruber’s theorized redactions Gruber’s predictions Cloudflare Declares Content Independence Day Press release ChangeDetection.io Stratechery (paywalled) Post-show: Marco solved sunscreen John’s hat that he likes John’s hat that is cheaper but that he likes less 🇯🇵 Skin Aqua Super Moisture UV Gel (eBay) 🇪🇺 La Roche-Posay Anthelios UVmune 400 Invisible Fluid, Non-Perfumed (eBay) Australian sunscreen video Members-only ATP Overtime: Is copying Apple hardware a good idea? Kuycon G32P 6K 32” IPS monitor Video review by Oliur / UltraLinx ASUS 32” 6K ProArt display Previously on ATP overtime D. Griffin Jones’ review of the 5K Studio Display Mark II coming in early 2026? Sponsored by: Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code atp. DeleteMe: Making it quick, easy and safe to remove your personal data online. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Pre-Show: Live music & failed air conditioners 🗣️ New ATP Members Special: Tier List: Pizza Toppings Follow-up: Meta Hires Top Apple AI Models Executive SFSymbols 🤝🏻 Tahoe Folders Standard SFSymbol: xattr -w 'com.apple.icon.folder#S' '{"sym":"camera.viewfinder"}' folder Private SFSymbol: xattr-w 'com.apple.icon.folder#S' '{"sym":"solar.system"}' folder Random string: xattr -w 'com.apple.icon.folder#S' '{"emoji": "HIMOM"}' folder FB18022272: “summary” symbol missing in SF Symbols 7 developer beta Toolbars Safari Beta 1 image Beta 3 image The Guardian (good example for messing around with the toolbar) Terminal Beta 1 image Beta 3 image iOS 26 Beta 3 Direct video link _David Smith’s beta 2 (?) video Stephen Hackett’s beta 3 video Matt Birchler: Liquid glass, now with frosted tips Steve Troughton-Smith pours water on the fire YouTube’s new player UI “Clear” iPhone mock-up was by Gavin Nelson in April 2025 HDR controls in iOS 26 (via Gui Rambo) Demo project ✌️ out, Jeff Williams Gruber Gurman Casey ponders the purpose of AppleCare Casey in Dongletown Post-show: John & Casey review F1 Plumber Problem Guenther Steiner Brad Pitt drives a F1 car for the first time Vision Pro Brad Pitt ride-along (Vision Pro users, scroll down) Casey’s pinball machine Members-only ATP Overtime: 2020 Hindsight John Giannandrea Sponsored by: Notion: Your notes, docs, and projects in one space. Hello Fresh: America’s #1 meal kit. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Pre-Show: John’s almost an empty-nester 😱 Reconcilable Differences Follow-up: FireWire now with Thunderbolt! (via Timo Hetzel) Tahoe without Xcode beta: Device Support for macOS 26 Beta Developer downloads ↳ Direct link Putting older OSes on newer hardware (via Gui Rambo) UPS VA ratings (via Marshall C) Apple’s LLM/LRM paper (from Overtime in ATP #643) Training data vs. distribution (via Deon Garrett) Rebuttal Rebuttal of the rebuttal More from Gary Marcus The original rebuttal was… a joke? 🤨 HDR in 𝑥26 iPadOS 26 window limits “Glass iPhone” demo ↳ Direct video link That “natural language to CLI” app is Substage Apple plans to launch a low-cost MacBook powered by… an iPhone CPU‽ Apple A18 References spotted in code Jason on A18 speed Stephen on the technical limitations Ask ATP: Is adding permanent NVMe storage a bad plan? (via Neil) CalDigit TS5+ What’s the best way to increase “internal” storage on a Mac? iSCSI? Mounted disc images? (via Patrick Harms) Atto Xtend SAN How does a new grad land a job? Post-show: Casey’s approach to ad-free YouTube must be dissected YouTube Premium Lite Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple’s App Store changes for the EU Jason’s coverage Store Services tiers in the EU Gruber’s summary Cranky man remains cranky Steve Troughton-Smith’s take The Verge Sponsored by: DeleteMe: Making it quick, easy and safe to remove your personal data online. Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code atp. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Pre-Show: John has made an important purchase 11 June 2011 Documentation of the journey (spoilers!) John’s beloved Ninja Anova After Dark Follow-up: We’re doing good work here, folks YoLink leak sensors Leak sensor 4-pack with compulsory hub Travel insurance is more than you think it is (via Jason Poole and Levi Dalton) Allianz concierge Window widget size in Tahoe Apple Intelligence is now allowed when booting from an external in Tahoe beta 2 Floating tab bars in iOS 26 Apple “Ducks” The Architect’s Lions Maybe don’t yank out removable storage in Windows either (via Adrian Mester) It’s the world that’s wrong, not me: iPhone 16 Pro case edition “We Messed Up” Bullstrap open-bottom case Ads in YouTube Why not use uBlock Origin? (via Igor Kulman) …or perhaps Vinegar (App Store link) (via Michael Brown) RIP FireWire Apple marketing continues to misfire Apple weighs using Anthropic or OpenAI to power Siri OpenAI/Meta leadership talent rivalry Ask ATP: Is it worth buying a laptop where Tahoe is preinstalled? (via François-Olivier Leblanc) How much faster will an M4 be than an M1 for Xcode Simulator launches? (via Alistair Logie) How do we choose a new UPS? (via David Levine) John’s pick Casey’s pick ATP #569 Eaton UPSes Post-show: Marco restaurant-tech MVPs… from his co-hosts! Tailscale (Tailscale is a prior sponsor) Casey’s introductory post Tailscale 4via6 YoLink temperature sensors (even cheaper with a smaller temp. range) Thermoworks VHB Tape Eve Room Members-only ATP Overtime: Should we pay developers like athletes? Sam Altman claims Meta has made $100M offers Jack Altman’s podcast Reuters coverage Sponsored by: Quince: Elevated essentials and staples that last. 1Password: Award-winning password manager trusted by millions of users. Factor: Healthy Eating, Made Easy. Get 50% off plus free shipping on your first box. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Pre-Show: Phish & Wabbit Dave Matthews Season Allianz Ampitheater at Riverfront Belkin UltraGlass 2 Some Administrivia: 🗣️ New ATP Member’s special: ATP Movie Club: Sneakers 🗣️ Sneakers (1992) ATP Performance Shirt Inventory Sale Follow-up: Persistent icon replacement helper apps Pictogram Replacicon Tahoe beta 2 Finder icon updated! Louie Mantia tries again New menu bar background setting! Beta 2, with background Tahoe’s [Not-So-] Naked Robotic Menu Bar (via Vítor) Beta 1, gray Beta 1, red Beta 1, white Safari toolbars (via Lewis Dorigo) Settings → Advanced → Show color in compact tab bar <meta name="theme-color"> theme_color Yosemite Safari tabs From John’s review Installing betas and DFU mode macvdmtool (via Robert Sherry) DFU Blaster (via Brian LaShomb) InstallAssistant.pkg (via Andy Beyer-Bowden) iOS 26 Beta 2 Frost all the things! The case of Marco’s missing download/check buttons Roman’s observation iPadOS 26 window limits (via Jon Edwards) “Apple Vision Pro 4K” (via Greg Kaplan) visionOS what’s new 2048 Threes All your data are belong to AI companies Apple training models on Feedback attachments ಠ_ಠ Original report from Joachim Meta AI staffers take an interesting approach New York Times 🤝🏻 Amazon AI You can train AI models without copyrighted material… it’s just a pain in the 🍑 Anthropic gets a W… maybe? Ask ATP: Does Marco use Apple CarKey? His car should support it. (via Samuel Polay) CarPlay Ultra partners list is looking… sparse Ferrari keyfob Why does macOS want USB mass storage ejected, but iPadOS doesn’t? (via David Campbell) Post-show: TV Update for Marco RTINGS: Sony Bravia 8 II review RTINGS: Bravia 8 II vs. A95L LG G5 RTINGS: LG G5 review HDTVTest: LG G5 review RTINGS: LG’s New Firmware for the G5 Members-only ATP Overtime: Overlap between appdev & gamedev Coyote time & jump buffering Secrets to a great platformer with Unity Destiny health Examples in our apps Sponsored by: Notion: Your notes, docs, and projects in one space. DeleteMe: Making it quick, easy and safe to remove your personal data online. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Pre-show: G4 Doorbell Pro Bespoke 3D-printed mount Fancy-schmancy Marco-recommended Flashlight What betas are we running? Virtual Buddy 𝑥OS 26 & Version Numbers iOS Apps built against old SDKs get 19.0; new ones get 26.0 (via Gui Rambo) ProcessInfo /System/Library/CoreServices/SystemVersionCompat.plist Tahoe returns 16 when reqiured for compatibility and 26 otherwise (via Howard Oakley) SYSTEM_VERSION_COMPAT=1 = 16 null or SYSTEM_VERSION_COMPAT=0 = 26 Liquid Glass Adopting Liquid Glass Don’t Liquid Glass All the Things Not present in macOS? (via Steve Troughton-Smith) Liquid Glass clone in Flutter (via Dave Wood) Fluid Glass in React (via Francisco Tolmasky) macOS Tahoe Whimsy returns! (via Minimal Nerd) Squircle Jail Squircle ∆ (via Yannic Lung) Say Hello to the New Look of App Icons Squircle Jailbreak! (via Simon B Støvring) Speaking of rounded corners… Build an AppKit App with the New Design Chonky stoplights macOS 26 window control buttons are no longer smol (via Avi Drissman) -[NSTitledFrame sizeOfTitlebarButtons] Missing title bars Missing menu bar fixes GlassBar Boring Old Menu Bar Alignment Tahoe dialog Tahoe dialog, center-icon mockup Left-aligned title bar text images Finder icon controversy Stephen tried Icon Composer with solid results Michael Flarup D. Griffin Jones Icons next to menu items Previously in the HIG (via Stefan Habel) Today in the HIG Tabs contrast Terminal tabs Safari contrast Ridiculous pink in the toolbar in Safari Arrow cursor has been updated Discovery by Nathan Manceaux-Panot Hand cursor as well Floating elements & compartmentalization Screenshot We all float down here Mario Alberto Guzmán’s observations Steve Troughton-Smith’s observations Clipboard history Stephen Robles Overview video Future of Rosetta Ars Technica New disk image format: ASIF Howard Oakley write-up iOS 26 UI impressions New slider thumbs reveal new info (via Niki Tonsky) Video iPadOS 26 Open window limits (via Steve Troughton-Smith) Previously, in Mac OS X 10.0… Slideover is 💀 UI impressions Testing Liquid Glass UIDesignRequiresCompatibility Vision Pro 4K? (via Steve Troughton-Smith) Post-show: WWDC Favorites Apple’s transcription APIs John Voorhees’s write-up Yap Generable SwitchGlass Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple snubbed Gruber, so who got the nod? Interview roundup on MacRumors Joanna Stern 7-minute excerpt Full 24-minute interview Mark from Tom’s Guide & Lance from TechRadar Sponsored by: Hello Fresh: America’s #1 Meal Kit Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code atp. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Pre-show: Initial Switch 2 Reactions Mario Kart World WWDC F1 Sam Henri Gold Marcel Flighty Parcel Control Plane Acorn Post-show: RIP, John’s Mac Pro Members-only ATP Overtime: Apple’s latest paper on the limitations of LLMs Previously discussed on ATP #609 GaryMarcus’ blog post which quotes a summary from Josh Wolfe Gary’s 1998 paper Gary’s 2001 book Sponsored by: Clic for Sonos: Elevate Your Sonos Experience with Clic Sponsored by Betterhelp: Give online therapy a try and get on your way to being your best self. DeleteMe: Making it quick, easy and safe to remove your personal data online. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

Follow-up: Apple “emergency” App Store appeal denied Additional lighting solution (via Nathanial) macOS 26: Tahoe? macOS 26 supported hardware Laurene Powell Jobs & Jony Ive interview MacRumors coverage Molly White’s newsletter Polycom “star”/”spider” phones Vision Pro & John Siracusa Corner Bono: Stories of Surrender Open: An Autobiography Rattle and Hum Apple Immersive Screenshots: Crowd Stadium TV PSA: Plex privacy opt-out Apple/SwiftUI folks: a quick appeal, if you please Casey’s toot FB17661404 WWDC hopes & predictions Greg Jozwiak’s tweet Physicality: The new age of UI by Sebastiaan de With Windows Aero Newton’s cradle Sendable Post-show: Apple declines invitation to The Talk Show Live Retreating to Safety Something Is Rotten in the State of Cupertino Members-only ATP Overtime: Sky: a new AI app for macOS Federico’s exclusive Stu Maschewitz’s take Software Applications Incorporated Sponsored by: Factor: Healthy Eating, Made Easy. Get 50% off plus free shipping on your first box. Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code atp. MasterClass: Learn from the world’s best. Video lessons that inspire. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!