In this episode of Upzoned, co-hosts Abby Newsham and Chuck Marohn discuss the article “Toward a New Way of Educating City Builders” by Seth Zeren, a founding member of Strong Towns. They discuss the many different disciplines that are responsible for shaping the built environment, the professional silos that often develop between these disciplines, and how a shift in management or the way people think about urban development as a whole could break down these barriers.

If you’d like to hear more of Zeren’s thoughts on city building, check out his appearances on The Bottom-Up Revolution.

• “Toward a New Way of Educating City Builders” by Seth Zeren, Build the Next Right Thing (September 2024).
• Abby Newsham (X/Twitter).
• Chuck Marohn (X/Twitter).
• Theme Music by Kemet the Phantom.