Unchained
Unchained
Laura Shin
The Stablecoin Competition Is On. Who Will Be the Winners and Losers? - Ep. 920
1 hour 7 minutes Posted Oct 10, 2025 at 1:00 pm.
Intro
What Rob and Mert expect from the coming flood of stablecoins and stablechains
How network effects could decide the winners in the stablecoin wars
Whether Tether’s dominance is here to stay
Why Forex matters—and why everyone still wants dollars
Whether Tether even cares about its new competitors
What Rob calls the biggest existential threat to Tether
Can Circle’s new payments chain, Arc, really compete in this environment
Why Mert says Circle is in a difficult strategic position
How new Layer 1s risk pleasing no one by trying to please everyone
Whether banks are doomed—and why employees might want to start exiting now
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Show notes
The stablecoin race is heating up. With the passage of the U.S. stablecoin law the floodgates have opened. Tether still dominates globally, but Circle, Stripe, and a wave of new “stablechains” are making their move.
In this episode, Dragonfly partner Rob Hadick and Helius CEO Mert Mumtaz join Laura Shin to map out how this battle could reshape crypto and payments.
Will ecosystem apps like Phantom and Jupiter keep their own stablecoins? Can Circle’s new Layer 1, Arc, compete with Tether’s network effect? 
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Guests:
Rob Hadick, General Partner at Dragonfly
Mert Mumtaz, CEO of Helius
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