Unchained
Unchained
Laura Shin
Which Types of Crypto Assets Make for Good Treasury Companies? - Ep. 885
1 hour 3 minutes Posted Aug 12, 2025 at 4:00 pm.
Intro
Why Ethena worked with a team launching an ENA  corporate treasury company
Ways to structure public crypto treasury vehicles
Whether treasury vehicles are just a flashy wrapper for vaporware
Why Guy says there’s way more VC capital than good ideas in crypto right now
How some DATs are trading at eye-popping premiums
Why Dragonfly backed TLGY but skipped other Bitcoin, ETH, or SOL plays
How the structure of these public vehicles shapes their value
What makes convertible debt different from SPACs or PIPEs
How investors should think about these new crypto treasury companies
How Wall Street is being pitched on Ethena and USDE
Whether this trend is legit or just another bubble waiting to pop
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In this episode of Unchained, Guy Young, founder of Ethena Labs, and Rob Hadick, general partner at Dragonfly, unpack the emerging wave of Digital Asset Treasuries (DATs) and why altcoins may be the next to follow Bitcoin and Ethereum onto public markets.
They explain why StablecoinX, a new infrastructure company within the Ethena ecosystem, is merging with a SPAC to go public on Nasdaq under the ticker “USDE,” anchoring its treasury with Ethena’s ENA token. 
With $360 million in backing from investors like Dragonfly, Ribbit, Galaxy, and Polychain, the deal is testing whether public equity markets are ready for altcoin-native treasuries.
Guy and Rob also discuss why some crypto wrapper stocks are trading at massive premiums, how capital gets misallocated in crypto, and whether ETH staking rewards represent real yield or just inflation. 
They debate whether this trend is creating lasting infrastructure or just new packaging for old narratives.
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Guy Young, founder of Ethena Labs
Rob Hadick, General Partner at Dragonfly
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