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Olaf Carlson-Wee and Rushi Manche on Why Move Is Safer for Crypto - Ep. 777
1 hour 8 minutes Posted Feb 4, 2025 at 5:00 pm.
What problems Move solves for crypto and how it got started
How the programming language is safer than others, specifically for crypto finance
What’s the thesis behind the Movement network
Why Movement chose to become an Ethereum L2
Where ETH is headed and what it needs to succeed
Why Rushi is so bearish on EVM layer 2s
Whether Ethereum is going through an existential crisis
Why Rushi believes that modularity will save Ethereum
How Movement differs from Aptos and Sui
The importance of developer experience in crypto’s growth
How tokens can signal the significance of content in social media
Why Olaf thinks we’ll soon see an explosive growth of financialized agents
Whether AI will replace VC investors and other jobs
What Rushi has to say about the Trump team buying MOVE
The significance of the U.S. making crypto a national priority
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Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Pods, Fountain, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform.The success of any blockchain isn’t just about scalability, security, or decentralization—it’s about attracting developers. The easier it is to build, the more innovation happens. Or at least, that’s the thesis of Movement Labs co-founder Rushi Manche and Olaf Carlson-Wee, CEO of Polychain Capital.In this episode of Unchained, Rushi explains why Move, originally developed by Meta, is a fundamentally better programming language for crypto than the Ethereum Virtual Machine (EVM). He breaks down how Move’s unique approach to security and asset management improves developer experience and why the Movement Network is bringing Move to Ethereum as a layer 2 solution.Olaf shares his thoughts on how alternative programming environments like Move could challenge the dominance of the EVM, why Ethereum is at a critical moment, and how AI-powered financial agents could change how investments work.Show highlights:
Visit our website for breaking news, analysis, op-eds, articles to learn about crypto, and much more: unchainedcrypto.comThank you to our sponsor!MantleGuest:
Rushi Manche, Co-founder of Movement Labs
Olaf Carlson-Wee, CEO of Polychain Capital
Previous appearances on Unchained:
OG Olaf Carlson-Wee on Why His Crypto Thesis Is Stronger Than Ever
Olaf Carlson-Wee: ‘If There Is a Money-Losing Exploit, the Money Is Gone’ 
Why The First Employee Of Coinbase Launched A Hedge Fund
To the Moon and Back With Polychain’s Olaf Carlson-Wee
Special Episode with CNBC’s Crypto Trader: Olaf Carlson-Wee on Why This Crypto Winter Is Different From Previous Ones
All Things Cryptoeconomics, Pt. 1, With Olaf Carlson-Wee and Ryan Zurrer of Polychain Capital
Links
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With AI Agents Now Trading Crypto, What Does Their Future Look Like?
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