For this full-on “what is a photo” episode, we start by chatting with Halide developers Ben Sandofsky and Sebastiaan De With about what it means to build a camera app in 2024 — and what it means to try and accurately capture a photo. Then The Verge’s Allison Johnson joins the show to talk about her experiment going all-in on AI-ifying her photos. Finally, we answer a hotline about which gadgets to attach to your head when you go for a run.

Further reading:

• Halide
• Halide’s Process Zero feature captures photos with no AI processing
• Let’s compare Apple, Google, and Samsung’s definitions of ‘a photo’
• No one’s ready for this
• Google’s AI tool helped us add disasters and corpses to our photos
• The AI photo editing era is hare, and it’s every person for themselves
• This system can sort real pictures from AI fakes — why aren’t platforms using it?
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