Today on the flagship podcast of open-source lightbulbs: David Pierce chats with Verge investigations editor Josh Dzieza about his story detailing how humans matter far more to AI development than we may have thought.<ul><li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/features/23764584/ai-artificial-intelligence-data-notation-labor-scale-surge-remotasks-openai-chatbots">Inside the AI Factory: the humans that make tech seem human</a></li></ul> Later, smart home reviewer Jennifer Pattison Tuohy explains why we're probably getting the idea of a “smart home” all wrong.<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/23724605/smart-home-apple-google-amazon-matter">Smart homes for smart people</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/23751315/smart-home-energy-microgrid-efficiency-independent">How microgrids and smart homes are shaping our energy-independent future</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/23568091/matter-compatible-devices-accessories-apple-amazon-google-samsung">Every device that works with Matter</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/23749376/smart-home-explained-voice-assistant-tv-gadgets">What is a smart home, and do you need one?</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/23751295/smart-home-platform-google-amazon-apple-samsung">How to pick a smart home platform</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.theverge.com/23728273/smart-home-setup-google-amazon-apple-nest-echo">From brilliant to basic, here are our smart home setups</a></li>
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The Vergecast is the flagship podcast from The Verge about small gadgets, Big Tech, and everything in between. Every Friday, hosts Nilay Patel and David Pierce hang out and make sense of the week’s most important technology news. And every Tuesday, David leads a selection of The Verge’s expert staffers in an exploration of how gadgets and software affect our lives – and which ones you should bring into yours.