The Verge's Nilay Patel, Dieter Bohn, Alex Cranz, and Tom Warren discuss the reviews of the iPhone 13/iPhone 13 Pro and the many new devices Microsoft announced at their Surface event this week.

Further reading:

• iPhone 13 review: yep, bigger batteries are better
• iPhone 13 Pro review: a better display, the best camera, and incredible battery life 
• iOS 15 and iPadOS 15 review: foundational fixes 
• iOS 15 is here, but we’re still waiting on a few new features
• Apple updates macOS Safari with a new look, but you can turn off the big changes
• EU proposes mandatory USB-C on all devices, including iPhones
• Apple won’t let Fortnite back on iOS until the Epic v. Apple verdict is final
• Tim Cook says employees who leak memos do not belong at Apple, according to leaked memo
• Microsoft’s fall Surface event: the 7 biggest announcements 
• Microsoft announces Surface Pro 8 with bigger 13-inch 120Hz display and Thunderbolt
• Surface Laptop Studio is Microsoft’s new powerful flagship laptop
• Microsoft’s new Surface Duo 2 has all the features that were missing the first time around
• Microsoft’s new Slim Pen 2 uses haptics to mimic the feeling of using a real pen
• The Surface Pro X gets a Wi-Fi-only version
• The Surface Go 3 gets new Intel processors
• Microsoft’s new mouse has a shell that’s 20 percent recycled ocean plastic
• Surface Adaptive Kit makes Microsoft’s laptops more accessible
• Microsoft Surface Pro 8 hands-on: the one we’ve waited for
• Microsoft Surface Duo 2 hands-on: once more, with cameras
• Microsoft Surface Laptop Studio hands-on: one weird, powerful computer 
• The Surface Laptop Studio isn’t as original as Microsoft would have you believe
• Kids who grew up with search engines could change STEM education forever

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