Co-hosts Nilay Patel and Dieter Bohn talk with Verge senior editor Tom Warren and managing editor Alex Cranz about operating systems — what's coming up at Apple's developer conference next week, where Microsoft will take Windows next, and the debut of some new systems like HarmonyOS and Fuchsia OS.

Further reading:

• The pandemic showed that big tech isn’t a public health savior
• The future of COVID-19 immunity looks good
• We have bigger problems than COVID-19’s origins
• Apple TV 4K (2021) review: much better remote, slightly faster box
• Of course repairing the new Apple TV remote is harder than simply unscrewing it
• Apple TV app comes to Nvidia Shield
• For Apple TV Plus to succeed, it has to be everywhere — even Android TV
• Microsoft looks ready to launch Windows 11
• Microsoft to reveal its next generation of Windows on June 24th
• Huawei announces HarmonyOS update for its smartphones
• Huawei teases its upcoming P50 flagship phone
• Huawei’s HarmonyOS arrives on tablets with the new MatePad Pro
• Huawei’s Watch 3 is its first HarmonyOS smartwatch 
• Google’s new Fuchsia OS arrives first on old Nest Hub
• AMD announces the Radeon RX 6000M series with RDNA 2 architecture
• Nvidia announces new RTX 3080 Ti, priced at $1,199 and launching June 3rd
• Nvidia GeForce RTX 3080 Ti review: more 4K for more of your wallet
• Nvidia’s RTX 3080 Ti is available online right now
• Amazon buys MGM for $8.45 billion
• Why on Earth did Amazon spend $8 billion on a zombie studio? 
• Discovery announces new name of WarnerMedia merger: Warner Bros. Discovery
• The Great Wings Rush
• Why Spotify’s Horacio Gutierrez thinks Apple behaves like a monopolist

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