The Strong Towns Podcast
The Strong Towns Podcast
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Why Persuasion Fails When You Lead With Data
45 minutes Posted Apr 20, 2026 at 10:00 am.
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Good arguments fail when they ignore how people feel. Chuck Marohn and Joshua Bandoch talk through using empathy, ethical persuasion, and values-based stories with everyone from public works directors to concerned residents. Their examples reveal why understanding fears and incentives often matters more than another chart or study.
Additional Show Notes
Joshua Bandoch (LinkedIn)
How to Get What You Want (Book)
How to be more persuasive (Tedx Talk)
Joshua Bandoch (Site)
Chuck Marohn (Substack)
 
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