Today, Chuck is joined by Ben Hunt, the creator of Epsilon Theory. Their conversation revolves around the concept of the Widening Gyre, a “profound social equilibrium where bad people and bad ideas drive out good people and good ideas.” They discuss this concept from a few different angles:
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How it relates to top-down systems like America’s political systems and corporations.
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How it has led to the loss of a national narrative and increased division and conflict.
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How a community-based approach that focuses on doing the right thing today is the best way out.
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ADDITIONAL SHOW NOTES
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Hear more from Ben Hunt:
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“<a href='https://strongtowns.squarespace.com/journal/2020/10/26/ben-hunt-were-not-going-to-fix-this-from-the-top-down'>Ben Hunt: We're Not Going to Fix This from the Top Down</a>” (podcast).
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“<a href='https://strongtowns.squarespace.com/journal/2023/1/2/ben-hunt-in-praise-of-bitcoin'>Ben Hunt: In Praise of Bitcoin</a>” (podcast).
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<a href='https://x.com/EpsilonTheory'>Ben Hunt</a> (Twitter/X).
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<a href='https://www.epsilontheory.com/'>Epsilon Theory</a> (site).
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<a href='https://clmarohn.substack.com/'>Chuck Marohn</a> (Substack).
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