Michael Steele speaks with Birmingham Alabama Mayor, Randall Woodfin. The pair discuss the injustice of Trump pardoning January 6th insurrectionists, Mayor Woodfin's journey from grocery bagger to city Mayor, the importance of HBCUs and the kind of leadership needed in the 21st century.

Check out Randall Woodfin's book, "Son of Birmingham," here: 
https://www.amazon.com/Son-Birmingham-Memoir-Randall-Woodfin/dp/B0DDVDV8VS

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