Jonathan Lemire joins The Michael Steele Podcast to discuss his new book, "The Big Lie: Election Chaos, Political Opportunism, and the State of American Politics After 2020." The pair discuss the role the media played in perpetuating Trump's lies, how Trump's deceit led to January 6th and how the 2024 election might shape out with Trump as a candidate.

Check out the book here: https://static.macmillan.com/static/fib/the-big-lie/