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Lawfare Daily: National Security, Counterintelligence, and Counterespionage: A Guide for the Perplexed
50 minutes Posted Mar 18, 2026 at 9:00 am.
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In today's episode, Lawfare Senior Editor Michael Feinberg sits down with his former FBI colleague retired Assistant Special Agent in Charge Derek Pieper to discuss the differences between counterintelligence and counterespionage investigations, the skill sets needed for each, and the dangers of politicizing the cases.

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