Susannah Glickman, an assistant professor of history at Stony Brook University who specializes in the political economy of computation and information, sat down with&nbsp;Lawfare&nbsp;Associate Editor Olivia Manes to discuss the role of defense tech in the second Trump administration. Susannah unpacked her <a href="https://www.nybooks.com/online/2025/10/04/the-war-over-defense-tech/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">recent article</a> in the New York Review of Books tracing the historical relationship between tech, defense, and the U.S. government, and explained how defense tech firms which have benefitted from U.S. industrial policy are now undermining it for the sake of short-term profits.&nbsp;To receive ad-free podcasts, become a&nbsp;Lawfare&nbsp;Material Supporter at&nbsp;<a href="http://www.patreon.com/lawfare" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.patreon.com/lawfare</a>. You can also support&nbsp;Lawfare&nbsp;by making a one-time donation at&nbsp;<a href="https://givebutter.com/lawfare-institute" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://givebutter.com/lawfare-institute</a>.Support this show <a target="_blank" rel="payment" href="http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare">http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare</a>.<hr> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

Rational Security: The “Adverse Possession” Edition

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