<p>Great golf swings have a certain rhythm. The guest of this Need A 4th?! is an okay golfer with superior rhythm: Mike Mills, the bassist for the iconic band REM. He riffs on golf, life and music with guitar enthusiast Geoff Ogilvy plus Bamberger &amp; Shipnuck.</p><p>See <a href="https://omnystudio.com/listener">omnystudio.com/listener</a> for privacy information.</p>

Fire Drill 056: Fathers and Sons

In the 25 years of covering golf, the development of the game, courses and the camaraderie that’s core to the culture, it was time for Matt to share some of the best stories he has heard around fire pits all over the world. From PGA Tour players, caddies, architects, avid amateurs and buddies-trip planners, Matt has forged relationships with some of the most colorful and influential people in the game. So grab a drink, a seat and settle in. We’re getting to the essence of one story per podcast. A narrative so deep and meaningful, you save it for a post-round fire pit, which is where no one is in a hurry for the night to end.