On this episode, Leah Sargeant, author of Other Feminisms, joins to debunk claims blaming pro-life state laws for the death of expecting mothers in the wake of the Dobbs decision.

She and Oren Cass discuss the misleading reporting that ignited these false allegations and diagnose the real problem: the often tragically poor quality of maternal health care. The two unpack why the allegations not only side-step the real conversations needed around supporting pregnant women but also endanger all expecting mothers.

And they talk about what a realigned conservative movement should do to support mothers during and, critically, after their babies are born.

Further reading:

• "Pro-Life Laws Didn't Kill These Women" by Leah Sargeant