This episode originally aired on March 25, 2026. Subscribe to ⁠⁠Music Person. Florence Shaw of Dry Cleaning from South London, England. Florence and Dylan discuss the difficulties of international touring, what your brain feels like on art school, black plastics, wanting to become a horse, reaching an associative songwriting state, and riding the bus as an idea-generating machine.+ Florence gets something off her chest.Artists we mentioned:Cate Le Bon, Ryan Davis, Black Midi, bar italia, Jeff Tweedy, Elton John.Find more illuminating podcasts on the ⁠⁠⁠Talkhouse Podcast Network⁠⁠⁠.Visit ⁠⁠⁠talkhouse.com⁠⁠⁠ to read essays, reviews, and more.Follow @talkhouse on ⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠Bluesky⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠Twitter (X)⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠Threads⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠.