Rian Johnson, the writer-director Brick and Looper, talks with Terry Gilliam on the occasion of the U.S. theatrical release of Gilliam's new movie, The Zero Theorem. In the concluding part of their two-part conversation for the Talkhouse Film podcast, Johnson and Gilliam touch on such disparate subjects as piracy, directing opera, Star Wars, magic, the horror of nature and Gilliam's long-delayed Don Quixote project. For more filmmakers talking film and TV, visit Talkhouse Film at talkhouse.com/film.