Pack and Brett are back—recording from family vacation and prepping for The National—to talk all things football cards.

In this episode, they tackle:

• The collector psychology behind non-rookie-year cards tied to milestones
• The underrated power of card backs
• Favorite card photography and why art cards deserve more respect
• Black Pulsars, downtowns, and why Kabooms get hate
• The Herman Moore market moment and why Keith Van Horn outselling Curtis Martin says a lot
• What it takes for Burrow and Jaden Daniels to justify gold vinyl and true gold prices
• A $2,500 Reggie Wayne Prizm Gold chase story that completes a 2012 Colts team set
• Joe Horn’s journey from Bojangles to Pro Bowls
• And why Hakeem Nicks’ 2011 playoff run makes his 2014 Prizm Gold worth overpaying for

This is an episode for the collectors who care about stories, not just comps.

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