In an online meeting with Sri Ramana Center, Houston, on 1st March 2025, Michael James discusses Uḷḷadu Nāṟpadu Anubandham, verse 28. The translation of verse 28 by Michael can be found here: https://blog.sriramanateachings.org/2024/05/ulladu-narpadu-anubandham-tamil-text.html#una28This episode can be watched as a video, ad-free on Vimeo or with ads on YouTube . A compressed audio copy in Opus format can be downloaded from MediaFire .