Design Matters with Debbie Millman
Design Matters with Debbie Millman
Design Matters Media
C. Thi Nguyen
1 hour 11 minutes Posted Feb 23, 2026 at 10:00 am.
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C. Thi Nguyen—philosopher, professor, and author of Games: Agency as Art—joins to discuss his new book, The Score: How to Stop Playing Somebody Else’s Game, and how metrics, from grades to likes, quietly reshape what we value and who we become. Together, they explore games as “libraries of agency,” the allure of scoring systems, and the vital question: Is this the game you really want to be playing?

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