<p>Debbie talks with Kathryn Gallager about her young career as an actor/singer/songwriter and about trauma on and off the stage.</p>

Katherine Gehl + Michael Porter

Design Matters with Debbie Millman is one of the world’s very first podcasts. Broadcasting independently for over 15 years, the show is about how incredibly creative people design the arc of their lives. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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