<p>On this episode Debbie talks to two designers about the history of user-friendly design and the importance of designing for feedback.</p>

Chani Nicholas

Design Matters with Debbie Millman is one of the world’s very first podcasts. Broadcasting independently for over 15 years, the show is about how incredibly creative people design the arc of their lives. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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