<p>Debbie talks to Beth Comstock about her career at General Electric and how big companies can innovate.</p>

Michael Ovitz

Design Matters with Debbie Millman is one of the world’s very first podcasts. Broadcasting independently for over 15 years, the show is about how incredibly creative people design the arc of their lives. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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