Bill Maher and Steven Van Zandt on their mutual efforts to stay in shape, Steven’s authentic style, the evolution from tour buses to planes, the changes in Las Vegas from the mob era to corporate, the commercialization of everything, how Steven is a "law and order liberal," police reform, homelessness, and the balance between liberal and woke ideologies, how this conversation is NOT about Bruce Springsteen, accurately depicting stand-up and music in movies, Steven’s role in "The Sopranos," climate change, and Elon and the feasibility of Mars as a habitat. 

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