Amy Odell (author of Gwyneth: The Biography) interviews Linus Karp and Joseph Martin, stars and creators of the hit play with music, Gwyneth Goes Skiing — a send-up of the 2023 trial involving Gwyneth Paltrow and retired optometrist Terry Sanderson. Amy talks about her interview with Terry Sanderson for her book; Linus and Joseph talk about their research process for the play; props (yes, they visited the Goop store); and why this viral courtroom moment translated so well to the stage. Gwyneth recently discussed Amy's book in British Vogue, and the three discuss that, too.Guests: Linus Karp & Joseph Martin🔗 Links & Resources• Buy Gwyneth: The Biography• Listen to Gwyneth: The Biography in Spotify• Gwyneth Goes Skiing tickets / info (NYC → Aspen → LA)Support the Show• Follow Back Row: https://amyodell.substack.com/https://www.instagram.com/instamyodell/• Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@amy_odellCreditsHost and producer: Amy OdellEditing: Amy Odell and Jonathan VoytkoRecorded October 17, 2025Photos: Anna Clare (Courtesy of Awkward Productions)Video: Courtesy of Awkward Productions Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices